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Need the right combination of a good GM that has support of the owner combined with an effective coach.

Les Snead is a major reason the Rans have success. He knows how to build a solid team.

Seattle, to their credit, has a very good roster this year. Clear they had a vision of the team they wanted and it paid off.

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Bill Vinovich was demoted so hard that he was named the head ref in the Super Bowl the following year.

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I posted that in another post.. Vinovich was the only one to call a big game affter. He is a very well respected official so not surprising. The ones involved in the missed call have had 1 playoff game (Cavaletto, Stritesky and Turner), the ones that had nothing to do with the call haven't called a championship game but have called playoff games.

As expected, very few Saints games from anyone on the crew.

other members of the crew:
Umpire Bruce Stritesky - has not called a playoff game since
Down Judge Patrick Turner - 1 playoff game
Line Judge Rusty Baynes - 7 playoff games, 12 Saints games
Back Judge Todd Prukop - 4 playoff games
Side Judge Gary Cavaletto (guy who missed the call) - no playoff games - retired
Field Judge Tom Hill - six playoff games

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And nobody went after whitworths family. If anything that softened it a bit with a Louisiana/LSU boy getting to a SB

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They did for the week after but it died down. There was a thread on here before the Super Bowl that year talking about it.

Whitworth did get a ton of love leading up to the second Super Bowl and from what I can tell he is universally loved by LSU fans.

Keep hating

I'm just embracing being the bad guy

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Flip the script and you don’t think the Saints would have been catching all the hate?

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Not to that extreme but the Rams were screwed with the Patriots filming their walkthrough before the Super Bowl.

My issue has never been with the Patriots, have always held it against the NFL for being soft. Same thing with the Saints No-call. The officials were demoted but still called games, some important. Should have been a suspension at the least.

Issue should be that the NFL doesn't hold very much accountability.

Saints fans should absolutely be furious, but at the NFL for not doing anything to prevent something like that from happening.

Even in these playoffs, years later, the officiating is very inconsistent.

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They lost because the PI was missed. Otherwise they kick a 25 yard walk off field goal and go to the Super Bowl. You know it, I know it and Andrew Whitworth knows it. Spin it however you want.

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I definitely admit that. No question. But my take has always been that the hate directed at the Rams was misguided. Saints directed all of that energy towards the NFL and it could have made better change.

CSP was trashing the Rams years later, should have been calling out the NFL for not making the changes needed to improve.

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It always will. When you’re the fricked over party of the greatest officiating blunder in the history of professional sports that costs you a Super Bowl, you don’t get over it. Ever

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Saints had chances. They lost.

Good teams overcome. CSP couldn't

After the shite Saints fans gave Whitworth's family after that game, I don't feel bad about that game.

Hats off to seattle, better team and desrved to win

edit: took out the dis to Saints fans. Shouldn't have gone there.

Well, we have a chance. Very small but its a chance at least

This is why McVay went for it. Seattle's offense has been moving the ball all game. FG wouldn't have mattered at this point.

Bad thing is if you challenge and lose that burns a very valuable timeout

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Seems silly to pass up on tying the game there.

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Down 4

But I do think it would have been better to take the points

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No offense, but you seem very stupid

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sticks and stones

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But all of the sudden there’s this magical line you can cross that has an insane penalty. It’s just stupid.

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The line is when the ref tells you to stop you walk away. That is the same at every level of football

Puka got a taunting call earlier for just flexing after a first.

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Why is taunting even a penalty

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To keep control of the game. Prevent fights. Don't want people to take it too far.