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Who has Clemson even played
Posted by packerbuck on 1/9/20 at 6:34 pm
Ohio State in the fiesta- no they were not elite
and I know the Buckeyes well and I feel very good about LSU winning against Clemson
Buckeyes played “2” quality teams this year, one in Penn St was undersized with a struggling Offense, the other Wisconsin- the perennial 9-3 team that can’t beat speed or dynamic play
Back to the Buckeyes- on offense, they started with one leg in a cement block because Fields could not run..take that away from him and he is mediocre
Dobbins gets hurt, and that killed the Buckeyes
They do not have a high powered Offense like LSU
Fields is inaccurate, his receivers are a step or two below LSU, without Fields legs and Dobbins hurt they were doomed..
So who has Clemson really played on Offense???
On Defense, Buckeyes held Clemson in check except the last 3 minutes of the 1st half
A screen to Etienne, that the Buckeyes blew coverage big time... Harrison missed a wide open tackle, Fuller got sucked in as usual, and Clemson did the rest blocking.
Next Lawrence run- where the Buckeyes went wide with the rush - Z.Harrison, Young on the corners, and Landers and Cornell inside going wide
M.Harrison at LB breaks wide, Browning in the middle had contain and broke wide
Single safety was Proctor , and Fuller was on the back
So everyone breaks wide leaves the middle wide open and deja vu last year with players out of gaps and there is a hole wide enough for me to run
Browning blows contain, M Harrison guesses wrong
Proctor gets his ankles broken by Lawrence juke, and Fuller over committed to Etienne and was out of the play
Jump ball play ...again M Harrison and Browning left their gaps broke assignments, Fuller ran right past the back and Proctor was way out of position on the other side.
3 plays where the Buckeye reverted back to last season 100th ranked defense, failed and lost the game
Buckeyes could not put consistent pressure on the defense, and OSU D played like crap with 5 minutes left in the 2nd quarter - undisciplined out of position ball...
LSU will
Not play that way on D, they will play their gaps
The Offense will motor
Clemson D cannot go tempo against LSU O because they play the same 11, so no subs
Clemson will commit to the “flop” when they can’t stop tempo
Bottomline, OSU doesn’t have LSU speed, athleticism, Smarts, and cohesion
So Clemson will be shocked by both the Offense and defense of LSU
LSU 48
Clemson 27
and I know the Buckeyes well and I feel very good about LSU winning against Clemson
Buckeyes played “2” quality teams this year, one in Penn St was undersized with a struggling Offense, the other Wisconsin- the perennial 9-3 team that can’t beat speed or dynamic play
Back to the Buckeyes- on offense, they started with one leg in a cement block because Fields could not run..take that away from him and he is mediocre
Dobbins gets hurt, and that killed the Buckeyes
They do not have a high powered Offense like LSU
Fields is inaccurate, his receivers are a step or two below LSU, without Fields legs and Dobbins hurt they were doomed..
So who has Clemson really played on Offense???
On Defense, Buckeyes held Clemson in check except the last 3 minutes of the 1st half
A screen to Etienne, that the Buckeyes blew coverage big time... Harrison missed a wide open tackle, Fuller got sucked in as usual, and Clemson did the rest blocking.
Next Lawrence run- where the Buckeyes went wide with the rush - Z.Harrison, Young on the corners, and Landers and Cornell inside going wide
M.Harrison at LB breaks wide, Browning in the middle had contain and broke wide
Single safety was Proctor , and Fuller was on the back
So everyone breaks wide leaves the middle wide open and deja vu last year with players out of gaps and there is a hole wide enough for me to run
Browning blows contain, M Harrison guesses wrong
Proctor gets his ankles broken by Lawrence juke, and Fuller over committed to Etienne and was out of the play
Jump ball play ...again M Harrison and Browning left their gaps broke assignments, Fuller ran right past the back and Proctor was way out of position on the other side.
3 plays where the Buckeye reverted back to last season 100th ranked defense, failed and lost the game
Buckeyes could not put consistent pressure on the defense, and OSU D played like crap with 5 minutes left in the 2nd quarter - undisciplined out of position ball...
LSU will
Not play that way on D, they will play their gaps
The Offense will motor
Clemson D cannot go tempo against LSU O because they play the same 11, so no subs
Clemson will commit to the “flop” when they can’t stop tempo
Bottomline, OSU doesn’t have LSU speed, athleticism, Smarts, and cohesion
So Clemson will be shocked by both the Offense and defense of LSU
LSU 48
Clemson 27
re: Burrow and Herby hanging out, talking shop
Posted by packerbuck on 1/9/20 at 4:38 am to sicboy
Herbstreit is a good guy. His twin sons play for Clemson - no way they go to OSU because he was basically run out of town by the idiot fans that gave his family shite all the time
Kids went to Upper Arlington Schools, very affluent suburb right next to OSU...family very active in youth and community sports - no problem living in UA (many former athletes live there so they blend in easily and community leaves them alone)...but when the family left the confines of UA nothing but haters on him and his family. Stinks because he and his family were all in on the Buckeyes ( his dad was captain under Woody)
Because Herbie didn’t show the “homerism” fans would go nuts, hell even the local talk show hosts would call him out because they can be delusional
Herbie loves Joe Burrow- both growing up in Ohio Herbie knows him well- he knows what Joe is doing is special and generational
Buckeye fans can show their arses and delsusions to uncharted levels
Kids went to Upper Arlington Schools, very affluent suburb right next to OSU...family very active in youth and community sports - no problem living in UA (many former athletes live there so they blend in easily and community leaves them alone)...but when the family left the confines of UA nothing but haters on him and his family. Stinks because he and his family were all in on the Buckeyes ( his dad was captain under Woody)
Because Herbie didn’t show the “homerism” fans would go nuts, hell even the local talk show hosts would call him out because they can be delusional
Herbie loves Joe Burrow- both growing up in Ohio Herbie knows him well- he knows what Joe is doing is special and generational
Buckeye fans can show their arses and delsusions to uncharted levels
re: You think Joe B. Is talking to his former teammates at OSU to get some insight..
Posted by packerbuck on 1/7/20 at 5:31 am to saturncube21
LINK
Joe says in article he will be calling Corey Dennis the newly hired QB coach at OSU- Joe will pick his brain
closest to KJ Hill, Austin Mack, BJ Saunders, and Branden Bowen of remaining Buckeyes
Dennis is Urban Meyer’s son in law but don’t hold that against him- he was a quality control asst and was headed to Colorado St when the job opened up so Day hired him- has a bright future
He was a grad asst when Burrow was there, he is well liked by the players and has always been in the QB room
Joe says in article he will be calling Corey Dennis the newly hired QB coach at OSU- Joe will pick his brain
closest to KJ Hill, Austin Mack, BJ Saunders, and Branden Bowen of remaining Buckeyes
Dennis is Urban Meyer’s son in law but don’t hold that against him- he was a quality control asst and was headed to Colorado St when the job opened up so Day hired him- has a bright future
He was a grad asst when Burrow was there, he is well liked by the players and has always been in the QB room
re: CBS experts weigh in.
Posted by packerbuck on 1/6/20 at 5:52 pm to LSUStar
I am telling you right now, LSU’s offense is very elite compared to OSU Buckeyes. Fields was hurt couldn’t run and can’t throw the out accurately....Burrow puts it where only his guy can catch it
Dobbins gets hurt and there went the offense
Burrow > Fields
Chase> Olave
Jefferson> Hill
Marshall > Victor
Moss > Ruckert
CHE > Dobbins in passing game and over all
Buckeyes score 23 and left 26 on the field
Defensively the Buckeyes had not played a team with talent other than lowly Penn State 28-17
Not that far off from Clemson
Stingley and Fulton > Okuduh and Arnette
Delphit and Stevens > Fuller and Wade (Wade was on slot like Vincent)
I am telling you the Buckeyes haven’t faced speed or athleticism other than a weak Penn St. Clemson came out of the game feeling good, they were beat up physically, but better than OSU
LSU is Elite, Buckeyes are Good... Clemson a little better than Buckeyes
LSU plays their game, 48-24 LSU over Clemson
Dobbins gets hurt and there went the offense
Burrow > Fields
Chase> Olave
Jefferson> Hill
Marshall > Victor
Moss > Ruckert
CHE > Dobbins in passing game and over all
Buckeyes score 23 and left 26 on the field
Defensively the Buckeyes had not played a team with talent other than lowly Penn State 28-17
Not that far off from Clemson
Stingley and Fulton > Okuduh and Arnette
Delphit and Stevens > Fuller and Wade (Wade was on slot like Vincent)
I am telling you the Buckeyes haven’t faced speed or athleticism other than a weak Penn St. Clemson came out of the game feeling good, they were beat up physically, but better than OSU
LSU is Elite, Buckeyes are Good... Clemson a little better than Buckeyes
LSU plays their game, 48-24 LSU over Clemson
re: Top Billin shows how Clemson was effective with TL runs.
Posted by packerbuck on 12/31/19 at 6:06 pm to GumboPot
OSU got sucked in, missed tackles, and left a wide open gap for qb run
Going to come down to the trenches
Dominate there LSU wins 48-24
Going to come down to the trenches
Dominate there LSU wins 48-24
re: Burrow vs Clemson’s Defense and Venables
Posted by packerbuck on 12/30/19 at 6:11 pm to Soup Sammich
Venable was getting boat races by OSU until Dobbins got hurt and stupid arse Day kept subbing and broke tempo
When going fast Clemson was suffocated
LSU receivers and qb are superior to buckeyes
So is OL..CHE has better hands in the passing g game than Robbins
LSU 45-27
When going fast Clemson was suffocated
LSU receivers and qb are superior to buckeyes
So is OL..CHE has better hands in the passing g game than Robbins
LSU 45-27
re: Dabo: “We’ve played somebody now”
Posted by packerbuck on 12/30/19 at 6:05 pm to Desert King
Dabo is wacked smack him with a sledgehammer
re: ESPN disrespects Joe
Posted by packerbuck on 12/30/19 at 6:04 pm to smartbuck
Orlensky is a homo
Joel Klatt
Posted by packerbuck on 12/30/19 at 4:36 am
is butthurt his guy Chase Young went silent the last few weeks of the season after he used Fox airtime to run his Heisman Campaign
Now he again shows his foolosophy
LINK
Now he again shows his foolosophy
LINK
re: OSU lost when Day whined about being #2
Posted by packerbuck on 12/29/19 at 3:01 pm to siliconvalleytiger
100% correct
re: Dirt Burglers is hanging it’s hat on Joe having the flu
Posted by packerbuck on 12/27/19 at 7:46 pm to dallastiger55
Their entire team has the flu
LSU 48
OU 21
LSU 48
OU 21
re: Urban Meyer analyzing the LSU game commented on Joe just now.
Posted by packerbuck on 12/23/19 at 5:39 am to Champagne
Frick Urban Meyer
He’s the incompetent idiot who couldn’t get the most out of a record setting Heisman trophy winning QB
and goes on record with this BS?
Double Frick Urban Meyer
He’s the incompetent idiot who couldn’t get the most out of a record setting Heisman trophy winning QB
and goes on record with this BS?
Double Frick Urban Meyer
re: Joe Burrow offer list?
Posted by packerbuck on 12/17/19 at 1:02 pm to GentleJackJones
Joe is on record , which is true, that he only had one D1 offer after his junior year of high school- Ohio University- where his dad was in the staff.
He wanted an offer from Nebraska where he was a legacy, and their coach Bo Pelini did not recruit Joe (Bo is an OSU grad)
Tim Beck was also on the Nebraska staff as OC and QB coach and ignored Joe on a visit
Herman worked his arse off to convince Meyer to take Joe- Fickell was also working Urban he knew Joes talent
Joe finally got the offer
Irony- Herman was gone and his replacement at OSU to be position coach?
Tim Beck
That’s some shite for Joe to go thru- the coach in his corner is gone, and is replaced by someone who basically blew you off on a recruiting trip.
I scouted Joe for a couple seasons when he was in HS - finally played them in the regionals and he kicked our arse
Best QB talent ever in Ohio
Praise the Lord for Coach O, Coach Busch, O’s son (O told the story his son watched Burrow play his last spring game as a Buckeye where he outplayed Haskins handily- told his dad),
the entire program...
No one should down play Joes story because this is not made up, everything from his recruiting to the town where he grew up..
He is the All American kid inside out who could do it all - kept his nose clean and worked his arse off
It would only be fitting for LSU to be playing the Buckeyes in New Orleans for the natty
damn whoever writes that script has academy award written all over it!
He wanted an offer from Nebraska where he was a legacy, and their coach Bo Pelini did not recruit Joe (Bo is an OSU grad)
Tim Beck was also on the Nebraska staff as OC and QB coach and ignored Joe on a visit
Herman worked his arse off to convince Meyer to take Joe- Fickell was also working Urban he knew Joes talent
Joe finally got the offer
Irony- Herman was gone and his replacement at OSU to be position coach?
Tim Beck
That’s some shite for Joe to go thru- the coach in his corner is gone, and is replaced by someone who basically blew you off on a recruiting trip.
I scouted Joe for a couple seasons when he was in HS - finally played them in the regionals and he kicked our arse
Best QB talent ever in Ohio
Praise the Lord for Coach O, Coach Busch, O’s son (O told the story his son watched Burrow play his last spring game as a Buckeye where he outplayed Haskins handily- told his dad),
the entire program...
No one should down play Joes story because this is not made up, everything from his recruiting to the town where he grew up..
He is the All American kid inside out who could do it all - kept his nose clean and worked his arse off
It would only be fitting for LSU to be playing the Buckeyes in New Orleans for the natty
damn whoever writes that script has academy award written all over it!
Georgia and Auburn
Posted by packerbuck on 12/7/19 at 6:53 am
against LSU- just because Auburn “slowed” the Tigers offense, automatically Georgia will do the same?
Not so fast
Fact- Weather isn’t a factor- wet field did more damage to LSU offense than hampering the Auburn D- Advantage Tigers Offense
Fact-Auburn D line is much better than Georgia when it comes to pressuring the QB- that was the main variable in the “Kevin Steele plan”
Georgia May be able to dial up blitz’s, but that will leave many opportunities for Tiger Offense
Fact- Georgia’s top offense they have played has been Arkansas St, meh..Notre Dame is next and was successful with the pass- not so much the run..which Notre Dame hasn’t been able to do against any D with a pulse..although Georgia did stop the A&M run, Mond was able to pass. Mond, Book, Trask, and Nix were able to have success passing against Georgia- none of those above mentioned - and have nowhere near the weapons the Tigers have
Fact- Tigers D plays like they did last weak, Georgia might score 10 points
Fact- Tigers have faced the #10,17,20, and 32 ranked D’s this years, and put up over 2000 yards and over 160 pts...
Georgia has a very good defense, but if the OL does
their job Tigers win 38-10
Not so fast
Fact- Weather isn’t a factor- wet field did more damage to LSU offense than hampering the Auburn D- Advantage Tigers Offense
Fact-Auburn D line is much better than Georgia when it comes to pressuring the QB- that was the main variable in the “Kevin Steele plan”
Georgia May be able to dial up blitz’s, but that will leave many opportunities for Tiger Offense
Fact- Georgia’s top offense they have played has been Arkansas St, meh..Notre Dame is next and was successful with the pass- not so much the run..which Notre Dame hasn’t been able to do against any D with a pulse..although Georgia did stop the A&M run, Mond was able to pass. Mond, Book, Trask, and Nix were able to have success passing against Georgia- none of those above mentioned - and have nowhere near the weapons the Tigers have
Fact- Tigers D plays like they did last weak, Georgia might score 10 points
Fact- Tigers have faced the #10,17,20, and 32 ranked D’s this years, and put up over 2000 yards and over 160 pts...
Georgia has a very good defense, but if the OL does
their job Tigers win 38-10
re: Who is the guy sitting next to Brady in the coaches’ box (NOT ENSMINGER)
Posted by packerbuck on 12/2/19 at 2:32 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
DJ Mangas- offensive analyst I think teammate of Brady’s in college
re: If Burrow gets passed up for the Heisman
Posted by packerbuck on 11/28/19 at 1:55 pm to honeybadger07
Urban Meyer and his fat egotistical head is spearheading the Fox charge to have Young or Fields or anyone to win but Joe Burrow
Urban is and idiot because he can’t develop quarterbacks and has his “inner circle” and that’s who he plays- Burrow was never “his guy” and LSU develops his castoff into a Heisman winner
Urban and Klatt and the rest of their follies can try as much as they it’s not going to happen- Burrow wins
Urban is and idiot because he can’t develop quarterbacks and has his “inner circle” and that’s who he plays- Burrow was never “his guy” and LSU develops his castoff into a Heisman winner
Urban and Klatt and the rest of their follies can try as much as they it’s not going to happen- Burrow wins
re: SIAP. Joel Klatt - LSU is the "Baker Mayfield version of Oklahoma" - Is he right?
Posted by packerbuck on 11/21/19 at 12:06 pm to TigerFan244
Let’s take a ranked “elite” defense
Georgia
and a top 10 common opp- Florida
Average yards per play for Florida
Against Georgia 5.4
Against LSU 5.3
Margin of victory
LSU 14
Georgia 7
It’s amazing when you have actual reliable data comparisons against common top level opponent
Tigers defense is very comparable to an “elite” D
Georgia
and a top 10 common opp- Florida
Average yards per play for Florida
Against Georgia 5.4
Against LSU 5.3
Margin of victory
LSU 14
Georgia 7
It’s amazing when you have actual reliable data comparisons against common top level opponent
Tigers defense is very comparable to an “elite” D
re: F*cking Herbstreit OSU homer
Posted by packerbuck on 11/20/19 at 3:43 am to Dudebro2
It will all Play out in the end
The OSU Michigan game is not a slam dunk
OSU hasn’t needed Fields to win the game for them-
And it will come down to that in a 4quarter game in AnnArbor.
Rivalry weekend is going to test the untested
The forecast in Ann Arbor for game day is high of 37 with rain and snow mix- Fields hasn’t had to throw the ball or get hit for 4 quarters in those conditions, it makes a difference
The OSU Michigan game is not a slam dunk
OSU hasn’t needed Fields to win the game for them-
And it will come down to that in a 4quarter game in AnnArbor.
Rivalry weekend is going to test the untested
The forecast in Ann Arbor for game day is high of 37 with rain and snow mix- Fields hasn’t had to throw the ball or get hit for 4 quarters in those conditions, it makes a difference
re: Can’t wait to throttle Ohio State in the Natty
Posted by packerbuck on 11/12/19 at 4:35 am to TheGhostOfBigLee
It would be a good game - the type of game Joe Burrow would thrive in
OSU hasn’t played anyone- I have watched all their games and they are bigger stronger faster and much more athletic than any team they faced
As a conference, the big ten is much slower and not as physical as the SEC
The Buckeyes though, are like an SEC team, but they haven’t played anyone close to the talent of Bama,Florida, Auburn, and the Tigers- in fact, when Tigers played Texas in week 2, I believe Texas was better than every Big Ten team except OSU
How do I compare the competition between teams- Georgia Southern whooped 55-3 in Death Valley; loses by three at undefeated Minnesota; Penn St was rated 4 by CFP and loses by 5 at Minnesota
I make this comparison because Penn St has been thrown in as elite because they beat Michigan by a TD and Iowa by less than a TD - Iowa’s big win is Iowa St, Michigan’s is Notre Dame
The other Big Ten darling is Wisconsin, their big win is Michigan. All that tells me is mediocrity between all those teams and a Georgia Southern team that can compete with their best
OSU QB Fields has been very good this year, has good receivers, but IMO his lack of experience shows in his accuracy. He can hurt you with his legs, but hasn’t faced a team with one shutdown DB let alone multiple top defenders. He also hasn’t faced real speed and pressure.
The Buckeyes do have a stout OL and a great RB in Dobbins, who is very similar to CEH. Their OL is the strength of their O, and when stalled, they go to Dobbins.
Defensively they are starting 4 DB’s who will be drafted in the first 2 rounds this year. They have as good a DL as Auburn, and are very deep (Young is the best, but it helps having Hamilton,Landers,Togai, Smith, and Cornell). LB’s are solid, Harrison is a stud.
The advantage the Tigers have is playing against top defenses- they are more than battle tested and can hold their own with any defense. The Buckeyes will not see an offense even close to LSU’s all year.
They may think that going up against their offense in practice will prepare them, but their O is 2 or 3 notches below the Tigers.
If it happens it will be a very good game, I would give the edge to LSU the same reason 2006 and 2007 BCS championship games haunts the Buckeyes- not facing that type of competition will show.
OSU hasn’t played anyone- I have watched all their games and they are bigger stronger faster and much more athletic than any team they faced
As a conference, the big ten is much slower and not as physical as the SEC
The Buckeyes though, are like an SEC team, but they haven’t played anyone close to the talent of Bama,Florida, Auburn, and the Tigers- in fact, when Tigers played Texas in week 2, I believe Texas was better than every Big Ten team except OSU
How do I compare the competition between teams- Georgia Southern whooped 55-3 in Death Valley; loses by three at undefeated Minnesota; Penn St was rated 4 by CFP and loses by 5 at Minnesota
I make this comparison because Penn St has been thrown in as elite because they beat Michigan by a TD and Iowa by less than a TD - Iowa’s big win is Iowa St, Michigan’s is Notre Dame
The other Big Ten darling is Wisconsin, their big win is Michigan. All that tells me is mediocrity between all those teams and a Georgia Southern team that can compete with their best
OSU QB Fields has been very good this year, has good receivers, but IMO his lack of experience shows in his accuracy. He can hurt you with his legs, but hasn’t faced a team with one shutdown DB let alone multiple top defenders. He also hasn’t faced real speed and pressure.
The Buckeyes do have a stout OL and a great RB in Dobbins, who is very similar to CEH. Their OL is the strength of their O, and when stalled, they go to Dobbins.
Defensively they are starting 4 DB’s who will be drafted in the first 2 rounds this year. They have as good a DL as Auburn, and are very deep (Young is the best, but it helps having Hamilton,Landers,Togai, Smith, and Cornell). LB’s are solid, Harrison is a stud.
The advantage the Tigers have is playing against top defenses- they are more than battle tested and can hold their own with any defense. The Buckeyes will not see an offense even close to LSU’s all year.
They may think that going up against their offense in practice will prepare them, but their O is 2 or 3 notches below the Tigers.
If it happens it will be a very good game, I would give the edge to LSU the same reason 2006 and 2007 BCS championship games haunts the Buckeyes- not facing that type of competition will show.
re: Tua cannot go full on his ankle...no way
Posted by packerbuck on 11/8/19 at 3:44 am to Statestreet
...still not convinced he had any surgery at all
Saban is a snake and can’t be trusted, he can’t stay coy for two weeks acting like he’s not insane by masquerading like the squirrly imp he is by saying “game time decision “...Come on if Tua really had surgery Saban has to be on triple dose Valium to be that calm at the podium- he’s a take my ball and go home when I don’t get my way ranter
It’s a ploy to have Tua “Jump off his death bed” and put on his cape and “show he is tough as Burrow”, and know they have a premeditated excuse if Tua sucks
Saban is a snake and can’t be trusted, he can’t stay coy for two weeks acting like he’s not insane by masquerading like the squirrly imp he is by saying “game time decision “...Come on if Tua really had surgery Saban has to be on triple dose Valium to be that calm at the podium- he’s a take my ball and go home when I don’t get my way ranter
It’s a ploy to have Tua “Jump off his death bed” and put on his cape and “show he is tough as Burrow”, and know they have a premeditated excuse if Tua sucks
re: Who the frick has Ohio state played?
Posted by packerbuck on 11/5/19 at 8:42 pm to Teufelhunden
No one
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