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re: Southwest 737 Max 8: LAX - HNL

Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by bushwacker
youngsville
Member since Feb 2010
4010 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:35 pm to
I'm supposed to be on a united max 8 in two weeks. should i be more concerned about the plane or the DEI pilot? either way i'm fricked
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83721 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 2:39 pm to
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I know not all of the 8 Max's in SW fleet have the in seat power. Is there any way to find out before we board if the plane we are on will have in-seat power or not?


Don't think there is a rhyme or reason to SWs adding in-seat power to their fleet.

I've flown dozens of times since the announcement they were doing this and haven't come across a single one.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40596 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:01 pm to
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See the Lion Air crash. They wrote up bad sensors repeatedly on that plane and ignored it repeatedly. You would absolutely never have that here.


Ya, the first pilots who dealt with it were able to get the plane down safely. It was the next crew, who had no idea about the previous flight problem and the sensor still not fixed, who crashed. Sad.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40596 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:03 pm to
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Don't think there is a rhyme or reason to SWs adding in-seat power to their fleet.

I've flown dozens of times since the announcement they were doing this and haven't come across a single one.


Per the Internet, only 18 of their planes have it, but all new Max planes delivered will have it.
Posted by sstig
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
2914 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:54 pm to
SW Airlines does not have assigned seating. Find seat with plugs or ask the attendant which seats have power.
Posted by midlothianlsu
Midlothian, Texas
Member since Oct 2009
1777 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 6:06 pm to
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I'll chose certain routes solely because of the aircraft


Did this once. Instead of DFW-LHR we drove to Austin to fly on BA 747 before they phased them out.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83721 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 6:14 pm to
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See the Lion Air crash. They wrote up bad sensors repeatedly on that plane and ignored it repeatedly.


That was only one part, all US Max have dual AOA sensors, the International flights that crashed had single. There was no redundancy.

And to contradict your FAA extremely rigorous, don't watch the Max documentary on Netflix. It will show you how easily Boeing swayed them to let things slide.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56647 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:01 am to
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Did this once.


Delta has a few routes from MSY to SLC during ski season that leave pretty early in the morning BUT there is only one flight that leaves NOLA and goes through atlanta that offers pods from Atlanta to Salt Lake in first class so thats the flight I take.

Posted by Bunsbert Montcroff
Boise ID
Member since Jan 2008
5736 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:36 am to
not sure how reliable this is, but seat guru says no power in any of the seats on that southwest 737 max 8

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Southwest_Airlines/Southwest_Airlines_Boeing_737_Max_8.php
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20128 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:22 am to
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I'm supposed to be on a united max 8 in two weeks. should i be more concerned about the plane or the DEI pilot? either way i'm fricked



Then don't fly. That was easy.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:56 am to
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Then don't fly. That was easy.


Or just book a different flight?

I completely get that statistically nothing will happen if you fly Boeing. But Jesus Christ, if I can shave .5% risk by flying an Airbus, why not?
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56647 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:17 pm to
Money, logistics and convenience
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:29 pm to
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Money, logistics and convenience


Which, all things being relatively equal, pale in comparison to increasing your risk (however slightly) of dying in a plane crash.

Look, I’m not a massively risk-averse person. I’m not saying you’re in grave danger of crashing if you get on a Boeing. And I acknowledge that there is also a risk of that happening if you get on an Airbus.

There’s a reason car companies tout their safety ratings. Driving inherently carries risk (higher than flying), so why not try to be in the safest vehicle you can in case the worst happens?
Posted by midlothianlsu
Midlothian, Texas
Member since Oct 2009
1777 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:46 pm to
I flew on one last week BNA - DAL with seat back USB ports
Posted by CuseTiger
Member since Jul 2013
8958 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:08 pm to
It is completely hit or miss with the USB planes. I had them on one flight from Orlando to Denver or Vegas to Reno and then no other max flights since then out of 6 flights
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:44 pm to
Have fun in Hawai’i!!
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56647 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:22 pm to
You can keep asking the same questions and I’ll keep answering them, but we’re just gonna go in circles. There are plenty reasons to fly the max over an airbus, but if you don’t wanna acknowledge them or you’d rather spend more money, travel longer and be more inconvenienced for a slightly reduced chance of risk for something that has such a minute chance of happening anyway, have a ball

If you want to drive around and Volvo, wearing a football helmet, be my guest.

Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:54 pm to
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There are plenty reasons to fly the max over an airbus, but if you don’t wanna acknowledge them


What are they? I’m genuinely asking and would like to learn more.

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or you’d rather spend more money, travel longer and be more inconvenienced for a slightly reduced chance of risk for something that has such a minute chance of happening anyway


I know I used the phrase “all things being relatively equal”, and I know you’re smart enough to understand the meaning of that phrase.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56647 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:19 am to
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What are they?


Money, convenience, logistics/schedule, reward partners / loyalty programs

If the safety component is "relatively equal" but flying an airbus costs more money, takes more time or offers a worse itinerary I don't understand placing the safety component as the deciding factor.

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56647 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 1:55 pm to
Score

Now, I just need to worry about the .00000000000000000000000007% chance of dying and realizing an airbus was the right choice
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