re: London and Paris with Toddlers

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I’ve bought strollers once I got overseas and left them at the airport with the concierge when departing.

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You can gate check strollers for free. I don’t understand people’s issues with strollers here. If you hate strollers, hot take you didn’t take care of your kid much. That’s the truth, end of story.

Little kids get tired fast and carrying them around is for the frickin birds.

Strollers are very common for euros to use. Nothing at all wrong with them. Don’t bring a piece of shite umbrella stroller or a monster jogger as said. But your avg fold up stroller with good wheels is great to have.

Europeans love kids, especially outside of the major urban areas. Just like the main areas of big American cities where you have a bunch of rich old people or hip urban young people that both hate kids, most of Europe is very kid friendly.

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. I don’t understand people’s issues with strollers here

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I think you've missed a distinction most of us have made: It's the American female fascination with overbuilt, overwide, and otherwise unwieldy strollers to carry around a kid and a days worth of shopping BS, the multiple required Stanleys for every family member, etc. A basic stroller is fine, I don't anyone has made that an issue. If you're a man, you can carry shite on your back (bottles, snacks, etc.)

It's like trying to drive a dually in the streets of most European towns. There is nothing wrong with strollers, but trying to get American (or Nordic, women seem to be in love with Nordic baby crap) strollers in and out of the Underground, Ubers, buses, through tourist gates, etc is an invitation to frustration.

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I’m on generation two of carrying kids (now grandkids) heap-um plenty on my shoulders. Haven’t dropped one, haven’t hit a low bridge with one and I haven’t yet hurt myself carrying them.

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You guys do you. But you very clearly are the dads that have their wives do all the work.

If you were remotely involved ALL day, you would understand how nice a stroller is walking around a city all day. It’s my vacation (parents) also. I’m not sorry I’m not going to carry my kid all day.

Again, best part is the kid can nap in the stroller. It extends your day. No need to go back to the room all the time.

What about waiting in line for the tube? Waiting in line to get a croissant, or get into the museum. I’m not sorry I’m not holding my kid all day.

This is going to be really crazy for you, I was just in Italy and all the moms have strollers there too.

I’m starting to doubt Lemmy has English roots

Using a pram in England is as common as afternoon tea and they are just as big as strollers used by American moms

Most sold English pram




Most popular stroller in America