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re: European Vacation Pics- Spain, Belgium, Amsterdam

Posted on 7/21/23 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by Nole Man
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 2:07 pm to
Really enjoyed the review and pictures! We're going there to start our Viking River Cruise in late November. Will spend a few days there and will try to get some additional input later on.

We noticed this article on limiting cruise ship access?

Amsterdam's council has banned cruise ships from the city centre as the Dutch capital tries to limit visitor numbers and curb pollution.

Apparently, they're trying (with little success) to clamp down on the nefarious "Lad's Weekends" (Or Stag Do's) known throughout Europe for their behavior as well. Seen them in droves in Barcelona and Prague and they're not something you want to run into.

In March the city launched an online campaign urging young British men considering holding their bachelor parties in Amsterdam to stay away.

"Boozy Brits".

Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 2:13 pm to
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Apparently, they're trying (with little success) to clamp down on the nefarious "Lad's Weekends" (Or Stag Do's) known throughout Europe for their behavior as well. Seen them in droves in Barcelona and Prague and they're not something you want to run into.


You see those groups in most every decent size euro city and yea, they are obnoxious. We don't spend much time in tourist areas so don't have to deal with them much. I'm glad amsterdam or any city is trying to do something about them.
Posted by habz007
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Posted on 7/22/23 at 3:03 pm to
Nice pics , brother


You travel like me, and I love to take pictures of local food and drink, locals beers, and scenery highlights. It’s the best way to experience it
Posted by patnuh
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Posted on 7/23/23 at 2:16 pm to
My wife packs more than that when we go orange beach for a 3 day weekend.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 7/23/23 at 2:44 pm to
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My wife packs more than that when we go orange beach for a 3 day weekend.


My wife's backpack is on the right in the first pic in the thread. We both had small carryons too but we pack pretty light.
Posted by drockw1
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Posted on 7/24/23 at 7:38 am to
Awesome journey, thanks for letting us tag along

As you head toward Amsterdam, I wanted to ask about accommodations. On two previous itineraries we’ve booked AirBnb’s (first on Weteringschans near Leidseplein, then on Singel near Raadhuistraat).

However, it looks like STR’s in those areas are almost nonexistent as we look ahead to our trip next April. Any suitable alternatives you’ve come across? (It’ll be four adults and two young kids)

Will be keeping up as your trip continues, but grateful for any advice you can provide
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 10:26 am to
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However, it looks like STR’s in those areas are almost nonexistent as we look ahead to our trip next April. Any suitable alternatives you’ve come across? (It’ll be four adults and two young kids)


Yea, Amsterdam has reduced the amount of time an apt can be used as a STR from 60 days/ year to 30 days. That has reduced the STR choice greatly. This time, we stayed a little further out than in the past but we had bicycles so could be to the Jordaan (Canals) in 15 minutes. But we also saw it as an opportunity to explore an area we hadn't spent much time in before.

I did a quick search for next April for 3 br places and these on the pic came up. All of these are about a 15 minute easy walk to the Jordaan, some even closer, but also in areas with lots of bars and restaurants. The Overtoom area is our favorite area to stay as its near Vondel Park and Museumplein and Overtoom is full of bars, cafes and restaurants and its an easy walk to the center or you can take the tram which is super easy. De Pijp is another great area near Albert Cuyp market and again, full of cafes and restaurants. My advice is to book sooner rather than later as you will have much more choice. We may go back next summer and will probably book this fall. Check the cancellation policy as many of the Airbnb's have favorable cancellations policies where you can cancel up until a couple weeks before arrival with no penalty.

This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 10:27 am
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 10:53 am to
We spent 3 nights in Antwerp and hated to leave but headed for Brussels. Now I've voiced my opinion on Brussels in the past, its not my favorite city. But there was some beer stuff there I've never been able to do since the breweries have been closed for holiday when I've been there in the past.

We did the quick 30 minute train ride to Brussels and luckily were able to get into our airbnb early, thats always a tricky timing thing to deal with when your travel between cities is so quick. We found most airbnbs want you out by 11am but you can't check in until 3 or even 4pm. I always ask if we can at least drop our bags off early and many hosts will accommodate us. As soon as we checked in we hopped another train to the town of Beersel which is 30 minutes away where Brouwerij 3 Fonteinen is located. It was founded in 1887 but has struggled economically through the years producing lambic and gueze which is fermented in open vats (coolships) where the natural bacteria and yeast in the air ferments the beer rather than using yeast produced in a lab. In the last few years they have had a resurgence in popularity and now seem on solid financial footing. 3 Fonteinen is one of the few remaining geuzestekerijen.

Now, we had to walk 10 minutes to the brewery from the train station which is not a big deal for us but it was pissing down rain and lightining when we got off the train. It was 2pm and they stopped serving at 4pm so we set off in the rain, no uber or cabs serve this area. My wife was a real trooper.



We made it, not too wet.





Got a jug of lambic poured directly from the barrels.



After having our fill of lambic, we headed back to Brussels and just walked around and had a few more beers.





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This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 10:56 am
Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 11:58 am to
We were pleasantly surprised by Brussels for a couple of days
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 4:42 pm to
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We were pleasantly surprised by Brussels for a couple of days


Yea, I saw your post. I don't hate it I just think there are much better cities even just in Belgium.
Posted by drockw1
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:45 pm to
Much appreciated
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/10/23 at 4:01 pm to
So our second day in Brussels we were planning on going to Cantillion brewery. They are notorious for being closed even when their hours say they should be open but I checked and double checked their facebook to be sure. But on the way back to Brussels yesterday we saw a couple that were at the brewery we were just at and started talking to them. They had been to Cantillion the day before and said there was a hand written sign saying closed Monday, the day we were going. But they would be open Tuesday so we switched our plans and made a day trip to Mechelen, a small town just 20 minutes from Brussels.We had heard good things about Mechelen and we weren't disappointed. It has great medeval buildings and a vibrant central area.







We walked around the Beguine area which was started in the 1300s by a religious order of people who wanted to live like Nuns and Priests but weren't actual nuns or priests, often because they had been married and lost their husbands to wars or wives to illness.
People still live in these houses today but they aren't as closely tied to the church any longer.







As we were walking around my wife said, "there is a brewery around here, I can smell it". I said "Hunt Dog Hunt!". She didn't appreciate that remark, but she was correct. The Beguines started a brewery in 1474 and it still exists and is named Het Anker. We finally saw a little sign pointing the way and went down a little alley.





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After a few beers and a whiskey, they distill their own, its pretty average.....we walked back into the main part of town to a little cafe and had a couple three more and people watched.





After a couple there we walked to another spot a little outside the main area and had a few more before heading back to the train station.







This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 8/10/23 at 4:32 pm to
The next day was Cantillion day! If you are a beer nerd you understand, if not, it is an iconic brewery known worldwide for their lambic style beers. Lambic is a style closely related to the way beer was brewed hundreds of years ago before scientists had isolated yeast strains. Lambics are fermented using the natural yeast and bacteria in the air, no lab created yeast is added. This results in a tart, sour beer and often this beer is re-fermented on various fruits such as the two most traditional, raspberries (Framboise) and Cherries (Kriek). This helps balance the sourness of the base beer and is very, very tasty. All sorts of other fruits are also used, some of them fruits I've never heard of. The couple we met earlier wanted to come back so we met them and shared some bottles.













After 3 bottles my wife and I did the self guided tour of the brewery. It is very small and they still use equipment that is original to their founding in 1900 and the same family descended from the first owner still owns and operates the brewery.







This big copper vat is called a Coolship. After the beer is boiled, its not beer yet but called Wort, it is transferred into this Coolship and left to be inoculated by the bacteria and yeast floating in the air. The bacteria and yeast from previous brews is apparently clinging to the wooden rafters and drops back down into the Coolship to ferment the next batch.



After the beer is fermented it is transferred to barrels where it ages for 1,2 or 3 years.







At the completion of the tour they give you three small pours of the base lambic beer, a Gueuze which is a blend of the 1 year old and 2-3 year old aged beer and their Kriek aged on cherries.



After buying a few bottles to bring home, its very difficult to find their stuff in the US, I needed some sustenance and some more beer. So we headed to Moeder Lambic, a very well known belgian beer bar.








Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 8/10/23 at 4:42 pm to
Nice pics, were you in New Orleans? I was told only new orleans has good food.


Posted by Sisyphus
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Posted on 8/12/23 at 3:22 am to
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Now when we arrived the door was locked and I stood there looking for the times they are open, often places are closed for a few weeks in the summer. Then the owner opened the door and asked me what I wanted. I said I wanted to drink some of his beers. He looked at me with disdain and told me to go somewhere else. I told him I wanted to experience his wonderful bar and he shooed me away. I kept talking, knowing he wanted to make sure I was a serious beer connoisseur so started name checking obscure Kriek beers but he was not impressed. Then I finally said I wanted to "taste" the beers and he nodded his head and said ahhh, that is different than drinking a beer. He motioned me in and he told us to sit at the end of a table with another couple. The man sitting there, a swede who now lives in los angeles laughed and said he thought I was not going to get in. Apparently if you research online, you find out you have to say you want to "taste" beer, not drink it. I totally pulled the secret word out of my arse. I felt victorious!




Sorry, I would have warned you. He's infamous for being a bit of a grouch. However, I'd wager he has the best selection of aged trappist ales in the world. (Amongst a million other absolute gems)
Posted by PaBon
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Posted on 8/12/23 at 6:39 pm to
Zappas, we were there at the same time! Need to post my review! Fun stuff
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