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Disputing Resort Fees

Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:34 pm
I’m curious who all has successfully disputed resort fees after a trip either through your credit card company, attorney general, etc. I noticed that Vegas resort fees are all up to $45-50 per day now and it’s ridiculous since they cover amenities that most people might not even use. In the past I’ve been able to have a manager credit my bill at check out but not every hotel will do it. Marriott is currently being sued over the legality of such fees so it got me thinking about it.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:40 pm to
I hate them because of what a hotel brand like Marriott has done with them.

For example, my status gives me free WiFi and breakfast. But not a resort properties. Then the resort will tack on $50/night for these "amenities"...specifically when using a points redemption. Flies in the face of a rewards program, IMO.

Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:51 pm to
Well I’ve found when using Marriott points they won’t charge me the resort fee. But they do include WiFi which doesn’t require a logon to use sometimes and anybody can be using it. It included newspapers and access to spas. It’s stupid.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:51 pm to
JW Marriott San Antonio has a resort fee w/ points stays.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33971 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 2:18 pm to
Resort fees are a very hot topic in Vegas right now. There are still a handful of the major casinos who have not fully opened up the resort, other than the casino which they need for revenue. However, they are still charging that expensive resort fee when much of the resort itself isn’t even open.

Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 2:39 pm to
Yeah I’m going to Vegas in 2 weeks and I plan to refuse to pay the resort fee. That’s why I’m curious who all has used their credit card company to fight it.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41072 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 2:58 pm to
You gotta figure out a way to divorce from Marriott.

They are just shitting on your chest without remorse from what I can tell.
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
10816 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 3:59 pm to
How can you get by without paying the resort fee? Thought it was automatically charged to your credit card
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 8:02 pm to
It’s technically illegal to force you to pay for services you may not use. You can dispute the charges with your credit card company if you can provide an itemized receipt proving you were charged above and beyond the base rate and taxes. Some state attorney generals will also fight it for you via a form you can fill out online. Or you can demand to not pay at check in or check out. At the Cosmopolitan in Vegas which is a Marriott resort I’ve used points every time and never had to pay it. Then one time I didn’t use points there and refused to pay but that was 5 years ago. I’m told all the casinos colluded to raise the rates last year and therefore a lot of people are fighting it. I just haven’t heard from someone first hand how that went.

I’ve never had issues with Marriott properties myself and I’ve been Platinum or now Titanium for years.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 9:18 pm to
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You gotta figure out a way to divorce from Marriott.

They are just shitting on your chest without remorse from what I can tell.



In the process of switching to Hyatt.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41072 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:36 pm to
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In the process of switching to Hyatt


There ya go.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:54 am to
Resort fees are just a way to advertise a lower daily rate. And hotels are very reluctant to waive them.

If you complain enough you will be compensated.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
11736 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 7:12 am to
Sounds like yall are fully aware of the resort fees, so if you decide to check in to the hotel anyway, I don't see how you fight them.

Seems like you should either work that out before you get the room key or just go ahead and pay it.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7340 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Yeah I’m going to Vegas in 2 weeks and I plan to refuse to pay the resort fee. That’s why I’m curious who all has used their credit card company to fight it.


Please report back to us and let us know how it goes. I'm guessing not very well.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24755 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 4:26 pm to
The best way to not pay a resort fee is by not going to a resort that charges them...

All they are are a way to advertise a lower daily rate and then *in fine print increase the true cost.

I believe a lot of the "fees" issue at Vegas was more complex than just the resort fee. It was something like charging people for parking even though they didn't bring a car, or internet even if they didn't use it. I can't remember and maybe I am wrong. But a "resort" fee is very generic and unless you are a high roller spending a lot of money I don't see why they would care enough to waive it.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7636 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 1:27 am to
You sound like a customer that businesses don’t want. “I want to stay somewhere. I’m aware of their policies upfront yet I’m still going to cause problems before, during and after the transaction.” If you don’t want to pay the fees stay somewhere that doesn’t charge them or ask about it upfront. If you’re going to accept the fees upfront and do a chargeback that is fraud in my opinion. This isn’t a situation where you have only one vendor to choose from. Why someone would spend so much energy on this amazes me.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24755 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:35 am to
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Why someone would spend so much energy on this amazes me.


Because he’s being extremely cheap. He’s using points, so free money, to pay for his hotel and now he doesn’t want to pay a single dime to stay there.

That’s another reason hotels are moving to the fees, is to get something from points users. I can see being mad about internet fees or parking or pool fees, if you don’t use any of that. But Resort fees are usually all encompassing Bullshite fees to for hotels to add to their top line. They suck but they are the cost of staying there.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:55 am to
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That’s another reason hotels are moving to the fees, is to get something from points users. I can see being mad about internet fees or parking or pool fees, if you don’t use any of that. But Resort fees are usually all encompassing Bullshite fees to for hotels to add to their top line. They suck but they are the cost of staying there.


The reason the hotels started adding these fees to points stays is because the parent company (in this case, Marriott) started paying individual hotels less per points stay. The parent company also increased benefits for elite members during stays (free breakfasts, etc.) but excluded resorts because the resorts complained...so that's also why you see hotels that aren't really resorts switch to being a "resort" to avoid comping these things to elite members.

In short, elite members who coup a lot of points hoard them for family/high-end vacations at top properties in the chain. The chain cut back on their redemption, so the hotels fought back.

Now everyone loses.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7340 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:01 am to
Vegas resort fees have nothing at all to do with any services used. They are just a way to advertise a lower room rate and to try to screw 3rd party sites out of some of their fees the resorts had to pay. They are just part of the room rate. That is all.
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6288 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:04 am to
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I hate them because of what a hotel brand like Marriott has done with them.

For example, my status gives me free WiFi and breakfast. But not a resort properties. Then the resort will tack on $50/night for these "amenities"...specifically when using a points redemption. Flies in the face of a rewards program, IMO.


Hyatt is the way to go.

ETA you're already making the move, good choice
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 10:06 am
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