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4 Days in Germany - Recommendations Needed!

Posted on 11/16/19 at 5:31 pm
Posted by Detective Gamble
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 5:31 pm
Fiancé (no pictures) and I will be spending 2 weeks in Europe mid-late October 2020. We will have 4 days to spend in Germany.

Any recommendations on places to visit?

We’re looking for an authentic German city/town experience....Trying to stay away from the bigger cities like Berlin.

Also looking for places within a reasonable train ride distance from Paris.
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 5:36 pm
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:25 pm to
Don’t mention the War.

I did but I think I got away with it.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:22 am to
quote:


We’re looking for an authentic German city/town experience....Trying to stay away from the bigger cities like Berlin.

Also looking for places within a reasonable train ride distance from Paris.


Why do you want to stay away from bigger cities? Also, if you are going to Paris what is your next destination? Trains are fast but Paris to Munich is still a long trip compared to some other options. It really all depends on what you want to do. Germany is a big country and the beer and food changes somewhat in the different areas. So you may want to research what tickles your fancy the most.
Posted by Detective Gamble
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 10:16 am to
We’re planning on going straight from Paris to Germany.

We just want a more authentic experience in a slightly smaller city than Berlin or Hamburg. We’ll be spending time in London and Paris so we’re hoping to have a more relaxed time in Germany.

Everyone that I talk to has recommended Munich but like you said, it would be a long trip from Paris.

Other cities we were looking at were Dusseldorf, Cologne, Frankfurt, Münster

This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 11:17 am
Posted by LAcajun2
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:00 pm to
Never been but Strasbourg is on the border of France and Germany and looks awesome
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted by CookieTiger
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:01 pm to
Wish I had a week minimum. But 4 days should work. Older historical cities suggestions: Cologne definitely. Heidelberg if you have time.

Glad you can travel by train. That is my choice for next time. Enjoy!
Posted by hungryone
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 2:41 pm to
Why do you have to go to Germany? Spend more time in France, outside of Paris. Have your relaxing semi rural adventure in Normandy and Brittany. Don’t waste any of a relatively short trip traveling long distances.

Strasbourg is a great suggestion. 1 hr 45 minutes from Paris on the fast train. But it’s still a larger town/small city.

Posted by Detective Gamble
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:17 pm to
We’re going to spend 1 day in Normandy but I’ve always wanted to go to Germany.

This is my first time traveling to Europe so I would like to experience as much as possible in a 2 week span.

Germany is place I’ve always been curious to visit. From researching, Düsseldorf and Münster seem like cool places to visit that are not too far from Paris
Posted by LoneStarRanger
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:06 pm to
Munich is a great atmosphere and you can daytrip to many places in Bavaria/Austria (day trip to Salzburg). Bavaria is my favorite region of Germany

That being said, smaller town....Regensburg. Look it up, very cool old Imperial city.

This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Huevos
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:33 pm to
What part of Germany are you going to?

I recommend Bavaria for the traditional Germany experience. Munich is a great town, and you can step down to Garmish for skiing and/or a great German winter town.

If you're going from France, it would be easier to stay on the western side. I recommend Baden Baden (classic spa town) and/or Rudesheim. Both great German experiences.
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

Strasbourg is a great suggestion. 1 hr 45 minutes from Paris on the fast train. But it’s still a larger town/small city.



Yeah I would just go to Alsace unless it's already part of the trip. You can cross into Germany and hop to Baden Baden or somewhere similar if you want to log a day or two in Germany.

Strasbourg is one of my favorite cities. Plenty to occupy your time for several days, and obviously you've got the other Alsatian towns to tour nearby if you like, as well as the wine route.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:52 am to
Cities can be overrated. Are you only traveling by train? If so a bigger city is probably a necessity. But you may consider renting a car and exploring some small towns in France and Germany.
Posted by hungryone
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:21 am to
My suggestion: spend at least 2 days in Normandy, and organize your trip so that you aren’t backtracking (or backtracking as little as possible). Why go all the way to France and then spend brief, fleeting minutes “seeing” a place, only to rush off to see the next one? So you can say you’ve been to X countries?

Again, if you’re determined to hit France and Germany on the same trip, seriously consider how much of your limited vacation time you will spend merely getting from point A to B. People are suggesting Munich because that’s where they’ve been.....but it’s 6.5 hours by train from Paris to Munich. Are you flying round trip out of Paris? Then it’s another day of daylight wasted, going back. Please consider flying into Paris and out of Munich if you are determined to combine those two cities.

Yes, I know you’ve never been to “Europe”. But you would likely not try to combine Charleston SC and Miami on the same trip, right? That’s about how far apart Paris and Munich are.

If you’re already going to Normandy, you could also visit Brittany (eat oysters on the waterfront at Calcanques, go to St Malo, see Mont St Michel) and have a deeper impression and enjoyment of France. It’s easy enough to also fit in Monets gardens at Giverny, or Reims for the champagne producers, or Chartres and the wonderful cathedral.

This is just my standard attempt to encourage people to slow down, not be a checklist or drive by tourist, and to let go of the FOMO when trip planning/traveling.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:26 am to
I sometimes disagree with you on the FOMO/too much stuff, as not everyone is going to go back to Europe frequently. That said, I don't think 1 day in Normandy is enough, and I do think going deep into Germany is a lot of time used up.

If it's not unrealistic to go back, then would suggest basing a separate trip around Munich. There is a lot of territory within easy train distance, including several capitals and other countries.

FWIW OP, my wife and I have done multi cities/countries in the span of a week, much less two. So I'm not necessarily in the "slow it down" camp. I just think spending more time in France and flirting with Germany (Alsace) is a viable option that'll make your trip easier.

Posted by hungryone
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:50 am to
quote:

I sometimes disagree with you on the FOMO/too much stuff, as not everyone is going to go back to Europe frequently. That said, I don't think 1 day in Normandy is enough, and I do think going deep into Germany is a lot of time used up.

Yeah, I know I go at a much slower pace than some ppl. I'm always thinking about the number of breakfast/lunch/dinner opportunities in any given location. The faster you travel, the less you get to experience any given place's food culture.

But I also think too many Americans think of Europe as a neighborhood, rather than a continent. I merely encourage people to *actually* look at the distance between destinations, add up all the intra-city travel time in the proposed itinerary, and consider whether they want to spend the equivalent of 2-3 daytimes of a trip simply going between places. If you want to be a road warrior, go for it. But collecting stamps on your passport like you're starring in The Amazing Race is just *one* way to experience the world....there are many others
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:19 am to
I think it all depends on motivations and ability to travel further.

Some want to collect stamps because they may never go back and frankly, may never really want to go back. They may want to see the Eiffel Tower, see London, drink a Guinness in Dublin and be done with it. Fine by me. I object to people who are close minded about travel, but not to those who know what they want and don't want.

We travel fast because we're relatively young, heavily research what we're most interested in, and want to scout for future trips. We're not check the box types, but we probably have limited time (at least for the next decade or so) to do trips like we take. So we're spending time where it appeals to us and trying to figure out where we want to focus our travels down the road. Not to mention that a lot of what we want to see isn't getting any less popular and I don't want to miss some chances to see highlights before they lose all aura of authenticity.

At some point, I'd hope that our travels will more closely align with yours, but we're just going to get there via different means.

And, while I won't tell someone like OP to waste time traveling, some of my favorite international travel moments have been in airports or on trains, etc. That's part of it, for us at least. But that's something to enjoy and accumulate over a number of trips - not something to be prioritized in a single trip (so I agree with your advice to OP on limiting travel days).
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:20 am to
As said, strongly consider traveling in a line and flying into the first place and out of the last place. Returning back to your destination is going to cost you a lot of time and money. If you are going to London, Normandy, Paris, then Germany you are best served flying into London and out of Germany.

Munich is a great city and the airport usually has good flights and prices. So consider that.

Or get it out of your head you have to go to a city you have heard of. If you just want the experience of a country, the food, and the local culture you can get that anywhere and is a very under rated way to travel. Any town along the French boarder will due for you. Just explore the other things you want to do in order to find your best match.
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:42 am to
Heidelberg.
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:15 pm to
I was just about to suggest Strasbourg. It's a great city that we didn't get to spend enough time in last year. Plus the Alsacian countryside should be fantastic in fall.
Posted by Purple77
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:43 pm to
You may want to look at Heidelberg with a stay in Boppard. Short train ride to Koblenz from Boppard. Easy city to walk.
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