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Wifi 6 mesh network

Posted on 3/14/21 at 2:41 am
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11493 posts
Posted on 3/14/21 at 2:41 am
Any recommendations for a wifi 6 mesh network? House is not wired for data, I see lots of sites say to hardwire the satellite modules but I thought the entire point of the mesh network was to be wireless.

I also want to reach into the back yard and hopefully to my boat port.

Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/14/21 at 10:16 am to
eero
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24734 posts
Posted on 3/14/21 at 11:14 am to
I just got an Orbi AX4200 router + satellite (RBK752), and am very happy with it. My situation is less than ideal, because my Wifi comes in to a detached garage and I have to broadcast the signal from the garage to the house, which is all brick. The Garage is about 30 feet from the house, so I have my router in the garage and the satellite in the house, about 60 feet from the router. I get a great signal throughout the house, and because my garage is right next to the outdoor patio/backyard, I get an even better signal outside.

My house is 3500 sf and covers two floors and a basement. My Satellite sits on the 2nd floor in the middle of the house. Coverage is very good throughout. If I stand next to the router, I get 350 mbps. In the most remote part of my house (relative to the router), I get about 150-160 mbps. I used Ookla speed test to get these results.

The AX4200 is a more reasonably priced (on sale for $379 at Netgear.com) version of the AX6000, which is $699.

Very happy with it, so far.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37241 posts
Posted on 3/14/21 at 2:27 pm to
I've gotten into the routine of buying a new ASUS router every 3 years or so, then the old router becomes the mesh satellite. I got the newest Wifi 6 router, and it's rock solid. It's not Wifi 6 everywhere, since the old router is not Wifi 6 compatible, but the network network transitions smoothly, and all of the main entertainment devices, if they can, get wifi 6 from the main. Only wandering tech loses 6 when I'm off in a corner or far in the yard.

1. Great coverage
2. Only managing two devices
3. Both full routers and both hardwired

Not much to manage, and does not break the bank since I'm spending $250-300 every 3 years and always having relevant tech rather than going all in and trying to keep a $600 system for longer than it is actually technically strong.

Technically I have 3 routers in the network, but the last one is the old, old router, which acts as an Access Point for some smart home stuff. When I buy a new router in 3 years, that one will be almost ten years old and I can probably just toss it.

This post was edited on 3/14/21 at 2:29 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/14/21 at 3:52 pm to
Orbi RBK853
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

I've gotten into the routine of buying a new ASUS router every 3 years or so, then the old router becomes the mesh satellite.
I did the same thing for a long time, but I'll tell you I've been much happier since I moved to Ubiquiti gear. There's a little more to it since you need to get PoE either via switch or injectors, and you may or may not need to move some cables around depending on which APs you choose, but for me it's been well worth the time. The cost works out cheaper in the long run, assuming you plan to stay put for 5+ years.

Quick rundown on my costs:

$140 USG router without wifi
$100 X 2 ceiling mounted access points
~$100 8 port PoE switch
~$50 cat6 cable
~$50 tools & misc

So I'm roughly $550 all-in, but I could have saved probably $50 by using PoE injectors rather than a switch, and I could have saved about $80 by using a cheaper router from another vendor, but there are benefits to the choices I've made. And of course there are a few extra hours of work vs. not using ceiling mounted access points.

Here are a few benefits that I really like:

My non-wifi router is smaller, cheaper, and should last longer than most consumer grade routers because it doesn't also have to deal with the heat generated by wifi. It can also be placed anywhere hidden away without worrying about the impact to my wifi signal.

My access points are placed in ideal locations, centered in a room on the ceiling, rather than being restricted to less than ideal locations near walls and closer to floor level. I also don't have to deal with power cords as all the cabling is hidden in the attic. The access points themselves are basically invisible unless you're looking for them.

I can upgrade each component individually and more cheaply than buying do-it-all wifi routers every few years. I can replace both of my access points with wifi6 units for $200 total, or do one at a time as needed for $100 each. Likewise, I can replace my non-wifi router with a more capable unit without worrying about wifi6 capability and the expense associated with that.

Ubiquiti, being "pro-sumer" gear, has a lot more options as far as managing the network. For example, in your case where you have a 3rd wifi router used for smart home stuff, I can just create a separate wifi network for my smart home gear and broadcast it on either or both of my existing access points, alongside my other networks. This is handy in case you have some questionable chinese devices that you'd like to apply different firewall rules to.

A chunk of my initial investment, namely the PoE switch, excess cable, and tools, reduce the startup costs for other gear like security cameras, additional access points (maybe outdoor ones), hardwired ethernet outlets, etc.



Anyway, just something to think about going forward. I definitely wouldn't throw out what you've got if it all works to your liking, but I would definitely mull it over next time you want to upgrade.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 3/14/21 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Any recommendations for a wifi 6 mesh network? House is not wired for data, I see lots of sites say to hardwire the satellite modules but I thought the entire point of the mesh network was to be wireless.
So yeah hardwire is always preferable, and in which case the "mesh" functionality would not be in use. This would be a standard network with multiple access points.

quote:

I also want to reach into the back yard and hopefully to my boat port.
How far away is the boat port?
Posted by LoveMy3thenLSU
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since May 2019
181 posts
Posted on 3/14/21 at 5:02 pm to
I agree with the dude who slaps hoes. Eero pro
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:13 am to
Ubiquiti is the answer you seek
Belle-Tech can install it.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7277 posts
Posted on 3/15/21 at 11:01 am to
The Netgear Orbi systems gets rave reviews. I went with Netgears cheaper mesh and I'm very satisfied. Our house is 2800 square feet and we have great signal through out. This is the one we use.

NETGEAR Nighthawk Whole Home Mesh WiFi 6 System (MK62) - AX1800 router with 1 satellite extender, coverage up to 3,000 sq. ft. and 25+ devices
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24734 posts
Posted on 3/15/21 at 11:28 am to
quote:

NETGEAR Nighthawk Whole Home Mesh WiFi 6 System (MK62) - AX1800 router with 1 satellite extender


The NETGEAR Nighthawk Whole Home Mesh WiFi 6 System 3-pack that covers 4500 sf is on sale at Costco for $199. That's pretty inexpensive for a WiFi 6 system.

For the OP's purposes, the router and a satellite would cover the house and one unit could be placed specifically to broadcast into the back yard.
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 11:31 am
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7277 posts
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

For the OP's purposes, the router and a satellite would cover the house and one unit could be placed specifically to broadcast into the back yard.


And you can add additional satellites if necessary.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37241 posts
Posted on 3/15/21 at 1:10 pm to
I'd probably have to get a pro install on the first go, but that does sound promising.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11493 posts
Posted on 3/27/21 at 9:17 pm to
We went with TP link Deco X20's. It was a mid priced system and it does what I need. I get near 500mbs near the main router and 200+MBS in the back yard. Signal is strong the entire yard, I am able to stream Disney + on wifi waiting for the bus at the road now so I don't need to use my phone. It's been covered before, I have a special needs son so waiting for the bus needs entertainment.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24734 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:14 am to
I realize the OP already purchased a mesh system, but I saw the Orbi AX4200 3-piece system (router + 2 satellites) for $429 at Costco. The Orbi AX6000 system is over $900, for the 3 piece system.

This is probably overkill for most people, but seems like a pretty good buy for what you get.
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