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Whole home audio - new construction

Posted on 1/13/18 at 8:01 pm
Posted by BengalBlood81
Member since Oct 2014
1324 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 8:01 pm
Does anyone recommend a specific whole home audio system? Ideally I would like a few speakers in ceilings in a few different rooms and the back patio, controlled by iPhone and easy to use for the family. I don’t want to have to give a tutorial every time someone other than me uses it. I will have a patio tv as well that would be nice to have it connected to.

Any ideas which route is best?
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
19114 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 8:22 pm to
I’m just putting Sonos everywhere and being done with it.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 8:55 pm to
Sonos all day
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3893 posts
Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:05 pm to
You’re going to get Sonos responses on here all day.

But if it’s new construction and the walls are open, wiring is much cheaper and fairly easy. You can run the speakers through a multi-zone receiver or even use a Sonos Connect:Amp (I think that’s the right one).

I’m doing this now and plan to use my receiver to control the audio.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35122 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:00 am to
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But if it’s new construction and the walls are open, wiring is much cheaper and fairly easy. You can run the speakers through a multi-zone receiver or even use a Sonos Connect:Amp (I think that’s the right one).


Winner winner
Posted by Rev1897
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
782 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:13 am to
I ran all my speaker wire myself. Took like 4 hours and saved a couple hundred bucks for installation. Buy the shielded wire on monoprice and Do it.
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1929 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 8:30 am to
Ease of use and iPhone control is Sonos. My wife uses it without any problem. I have a connect:amp running 4 in-ceiling speakers in the living room, another connect: amp running 4 patio speakers, a playbar connected to the ceiling speakers in the living room, and a few play:1s in the kitchen, master bedroom, and master bath. I understood that Sonos was the more expensive route, but ease of use is what sold me.
Posted by Tha Herg
Herget Dorm
Member since Jul 2009
2952 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 11:09 am to
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Ease of use and iPhone control is Sonos. My wife uses it without any problem. I have a connect:amp running 4 in-ceiling speakers in the living room

Can you expand on this a bit? How do you connect your in-ceiling speakers to the “Sonos setup”? In my mind, the “Sonos setup” requires physical Sonos speakers, not in-ceiling speakers made by say Sony or Bose.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
79571 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Whole home audio - new construction


You need to be on AVSForum. Bring a budget number with you
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37507 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 11:40 am to
Sonos Connect:Amp connects to wired speakers. The downside is that you need a Connect:Amp for each zone (basically each pair) of speakers.

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not in-ceiling speakers made by say Sony or Bose


And please if you do this buy better in-ceiling speakers than the shite produced by these companies.
This post was edited on 1/14/18 at 11:41 am
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14000 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

But if it’s new construction and the walls are open, wiring is much cheaper and fairly easy. You can run the speakers through a multi-zone receiver or even use a Sonos Connect:Amp (I think that’s the right one).


Winner winner


I would like to see a cost breakdown for receivers, wiring, speakers, and installation. That shite has got to be super expensive and practical for a very small segment of society.

Sonos will work for most anyone and is really inexpensive for what it does.
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1929 posts
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

Can you expand on this a bit?


I have 2 pair of Polk RC80i hard wired back to the Sonos connect:amp, which puts it in the Sonos environment. I eventually added a playbar, and have it paired with the ceiling speakers for my version of "surround sound." Not true surround, but works well for me.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6459 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

But if it’s new construction and the walls are open, wiring is much cheaper and fairly easy. You can run the speakers through a multi-zone receiver or even use a Sonos Connect:Amp (I think that’s the right one).


If you go this route, I cannot understate the importance of the MULTI ZONE receiver. I bought a single zone and ended up going back for multi zone.

For you guys saying sonos, I haven't looked into it. But looking at their product, is Alexa built into all sonos products or only those specified?
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1929 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

is Alexa built into all sonos products or only those specified?


My understanding is that the Sonos One has Alexa built in. The other speakers are compatible with the Alexa environment through the use of an echo dot. Search for Cad on the tech board, he has done alot with the Sonos system and Alexa.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86772 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:27 pm to
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My understanding is that the Sonos One has Alexa built in.


sonos one has VOICE CONTROL built in. this is a subtle but important difference.

while alexa is the first/only voice control support out-of-the-box, the plan is that the ONE would support google home, siri, etc. going forward.

if you buy a regular sonos speaker and an alexa dot..then yes, you are limited to just alexa support going forward.

google home is 'kinda' supported now via yonami its still a hack but i would expect this to be added soon.

also surprised with how cozy sonos and apple are that apple voice control isn't enabled yet either.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1929 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:38 pm to
Thanks for the clarification.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6459 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:45 pm to
So if you don't want voice control (because you're paranoid and don't want devices listening on my conversation) is Sonos out of the question? Or is there a sonos without voice control?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86772 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

So if you don't want voice control (because you're paranoid and don't want devices listening on my conversation) is Sonos out of the question? Or is there a sonos without voice control?

Asking for a friend.


(a) you don't have to hook sonos up to any voice control system
(b) the SONOS one is the same as a play:1 (but more expensive) so unless you just go out and seek that product, you'd be fine buying any of the other 30 products they have for sale

in short, no current sonos speaker (aside from sonos one) can record & use your voice.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 2:53 pm
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35122 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:11 pm to
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That shite has got to be super expensive


Cuz Sonos is so cheap. $1400 for a sound bar and sub.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86772 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:09 pm to
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$1400 for a sound bar and sub.


and you're crazy if you pay that. i bought my sub for $400 and the soundbar for $450.

before christmas I saw the set on craigslist here for $800.

there are ways to buy the expensive sonos components without breaking the bank.

the play:1s can be had for $100 all day long ($139 on amazon) and they will form the backbone of most of the rooms in your house.
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