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junkfunky
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
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if you dont have your miner yet, why are you messing with this app?


Dicking around.

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and all yall going to hold helium or transfer to btc?


Plan is to transfer but we'll keep an eye on it. Neither of us have btc, just eth and little bit of eth backed alts.


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topdollarbill
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
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And looking at the grouping and spacing of the hotspots, it looks less like a rogue employee and more like a legit business related and planned network build.


Dig deeper.

The guy is a scammer. I have a Lora scanner and there is ZERO coverage in that large concentration around Shenendoah area.

I am the other guy in BR with active hotspots. The wallet with 24 units is a scam. At most, he has 10-12 legit hotspots. The others are likely VM's running the mining software with legit keys, but they are not legit hotspots.

Dude's a criminal.


Korkstand
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
Wow thanks for that info.

So are you using the network with end devices?


junkfunky
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
WTF

Do the fake hotspots still witness, beacon, etc?


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Korkstand
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
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and all yall going to hold helium or transfer to btc?
I will probably diversify like with any other investment, but I do think HNT is going to the moon.

Helium is in its infancy, still in the network buildout phase so that's where most of the rewards are going. Over time the rewards will tip to mostly data transfer fees, and I think over the next 5-10 years this is going to grow exponentially. There are just so many untapped uses for LoRa, and almost nobody even knows what it is at this point.

Just a few use cases:

Asset/fleet tracking. Once the helium network is on par with cellular coverage (might happen by year's end), GPS tracking via cellular will be obsolete. Why pay $15+ per month per vehicle when you can use helium for 1/10th the cost? It's so cheap that ranchers use it to track individual cattle. Real-time open/close status of far remote gates just as you have on the doors in your house.

Farmers use it to monitor soil conditions, moisture, etc. Monitor tank/storage levels.

There are boat monitors which do GPS, battery levels, leak alarms, theft, etc.


Anything you can imagine to do with a sensor, you can do via LoRa/Helium. We have barely scratched the surface so far, and I believe tiny battery-powered LoRa devices will become ubiquitous over the next decade. Hotspot operators will be collecting fees for a long time, a fraction of a cent at a time.


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topdollarbill
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
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So are you using the network with end devices?



I have two professional grade Lora / Helium scanners that upload their mapping data to mappers.helium.com and I can see the hotspot names.

All his infrastructure that claims to be on the Shenandoah side of town is bogus.

I have 3 legit hotspots operating in the BR area and I'm providing most of the existing coverage with those 3.

I believe General Infomatics is likely the source of the fraud.

I know within 4 or 5 houses where one of the people live involved in the scam. It may be one guy, or a group.

I'm still doing my due diligence, and don't know if there's any recourse, but the 24 unit wallet guy is at best a shitbag, and possibly a criminal.
This post was edited on 4/30 at 1:08 pm


Korkstand
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
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I have 3 legit hotspots operating in the BR area and I'm providing most of the existing coverage with those 3.
Are you getting any traffic?


topdollarbill
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
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Are you getting any traffic?


Very little. My scanner creates traffic when I am in coverage areas. It's hard to differentiate the data source.


Korkstand
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
Are you bullish on the future of Helium? Obviously I am.


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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
we got a pumper here!


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topdollarbill
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
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Are you bullish on the future of Helium? Obviously I am.


Generally, YES.

I have a great deal on concern about the folks scamming the system and what Helium is actively doing about it.

If the coin and the tech is going to take off, IMHO they need to take some significant steps to limit the fraudsters. Without faith in the network, the coin could free fall. While this is still in its infancy, I think they need to address this. The stakes are too high to not.

I have several hundred units ordered back in Jan that should arrive any day... And with that level of investment, any bad press later on could be very negative for my investment, so I hope that they can root out the bad actors ASAP.
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Korkstand
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
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I have a great deal on concern about the folks scamming the system and what Helium is actively doing about it.
I don't quite understand this scam, as I understand it will only work with their approved miners. Is there an older method that has been grandfathered in that is being taken advantage of?
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I have several hundred units ordered back in Jan that should arrive any day
Uhhh, miners or end devices/nodes/sensors?


topdollarbill
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
Get on discord and search for it online. Too complicated and time consuming for me to explain here. You can fake locations assertion, attenuate the signals, etc. When they first introduced Helium, they allowed u to build your own miner and gave you a valid swarm key. All the scammers use exploits from the initial rollout.

Miners are what I have and will deploy.

I do have several use cases at work I could actually use the network for in real life, but I'm invested in tech already and buy from a solution provider that uses other connectivity options so I just use that.


Korkstand
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
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Miners are what I have and will deploy.
So just to clarify, you have several *hundred* miners on order? Will they all be deployed in the BR area?


topdollarbill
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
If u wanna talk offline that's cool... I'm not laying out my biz plans on TD.com no offense.


Korkstand
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
Understood. If you want shoot me an email at my username at gmail.


Korkstand
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
My Helium miners won't be here for a long time, so in the meantime I picked up a Mikrotik LoRaWAN gateway that works with TheThingsNetwork (TTN) to get my feet wet with building nodes.

I used an Arduino Pro Mini and a HopeRF RFM95W radio to do my testing/prototyping. My test node is currently out in the back yard reporting the temp, humidity, and battery voltage in 5 minute intervals.

LoRa has a range measured in miles, but that is with optimal conditions... outdoor gateway with high gain antenna mounted as high as possible, high gain antenna on the node, line of sight, etc. My gateway is the cheap indoor variety, small low-gain built in antenna, my node's antenna is just a piece of wire, and it's outside with several walls and a building blocking line of sight, but it's still sending data just fine.

I was able to fit temp, humidity, battery voltage, and a test value all into just 8 bytes, so transmission times are very low. Airtime is reported as 370ms per message, and I'm not sure how long it takes to read the weather sensor but I believe total wake time is less than 1 second per 5 minutes. It has been running on battery for a couple hours, and it looks like it has lost about 0.01 volts in that time, but most of that could just be error. I'll have to give it a couple days to estimate total runtime a little better. It is also just a 1,000mah lipo battery pack, so I could swap that out for 3 AA's and get 5-10X more battery life. I also removed the pro mini's power LED because it draws a lot of current, even during sleep mode.

There are quite a few details that need to be just right to build a DIY LoRa node. It took me a while just to find a good sample sketch to work from, and even after that it took me a while to figure out that I needed to adjust the radio channels it was using. I had the right channel plan (US 915mhz), but you then have to choose the right sub-band. I read a bunch of pinout charts and example circuits to wire up the radio. You have to snip the antenna just the right length (3-1/16"). There are tons of pre-built nodes that are basically plug and play, or breakout boards to make a DIY build easier, but I went the breadboard route as I tend to do just so that I could learn as much as possible.

On the network side, you have to write a function to unpack your message. It involves bit-shifting (which I still don't quite understand) to convert the received hex into decimal values, and then you package them up into a JSON-style object. From there you have several integrations to choose from, so you can send your data to the TTN cloud storage where you can retrieve it via HTTP endpoint, or you can send it to AWS IoT, or MQTT, or a couple other options. From there it's up to you how to process it further. Maybe you write a web/mobile app to consume it. Maybe you hook it up to home assistant and do some automations with it. Whatever.

So now that I have a basic node platform, I can put together pretty much any type of sensor I want pretty quickly and cheaply. Check the weather like I've done, soil conditions, battery status (like on a generator, boat, sxs, whatever), gps location, door/window/gate status, water level, vehicle presence, PIR motion, vibration/accelerometer, light level, tank/container level, etc. Anything you want to measure, you can do it hundreds of times per day for like $20 in parts. And you can cover dozens or hundreds of square miles with just 1 cheap gateway.


Crazy stuff, and it's fun.
This post was edited on 5/6 at 6:00 pm


Korkstand
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Plaquemine, LA
Member since Nov 2003
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re: Which one of you made $10k last month mining Helium?
I just walked my node out to a range of about 700 feet, and there were several buildings, trees, etc blocking line of sight, and there was basically no loss in signal strength. And again, I have basically everything wrong here. Low-gain antennas, the gateway is indoors, and it is even laying on its side right next to another large-ish electronics device with a metal enclosure, which actually also blocked line of sight to my node.

The range is legit, this will easily go for miles with a properly mounted, quality antenna.


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