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re: USB Type-C to become common charging port for all mobile phones, tablets and cameras in EU
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:58 pm to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:58 pm to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
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Won't this kill the trade in value for all the current iPhones?
Probably not. The cable isn’t being outlawed. The manufacturing of the phone using that cable in the future is. It will be around for another 6-8 years before the demand for the cable drops/disappears. I give it that long based on some amount of corporate use of an iPhone as a scanner/card reader that doesn’t need to be replaced as often as a phone, but it could be faster/slower and almost certainly on the “faster” end in the general consumer market.
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Isn't Apple going to be making portless phones sometime soon?
Would not surprise me even a little, assuming it’s not in direct violation of the law.
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 12:39 am to mdomingue
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Same but I am not torn only because we all know that USB C will be surpassed at some point in the future.
When that happens, how will they circumvent this law?
I am assuming they did not somehow account for changing technologies because lawmakers never seem to think beyond next Tuesday if they even think that far ahead.
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Any technological developments in wired charging can be reflected in a timely adjustment of technical requirements/ specific standards under the Radio Equipment Directive. This would ensure that the technology used is not outdated.
At the same time, the implementation of any new standards in further revisions of Radio Equipment Directive would need to be developed in a harmonised manner, respecting the objectives of full interoperability. Industry is therefore expected to continue the work already undertaken on the standardised interface, led by the USB-IF organisation, in view of developing new interoperable, open and non-controversial solutions.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:44 pm to Hopeful Doc
Does USB C charge quicker than lightning? I would never buy a portless phone. I hate having my options limited.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 4:51 pm to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
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Does USB C charge quicker than lightning? I would never buy a portless phone. I hate having my options limited.
Neither is faster for iphones, as the latest iPhone maxes out at 27w charging. USB Type-C is currently capable of 100w using USB revision 3.2. So while other devices could theoretically be charged much, much faster via USB-C, your iphone wouldn't care either way. Though I'm curious if future iphones using USB Type-C will embrace higher wattages. For context, flagship Samsung phones currently max out at 45w.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:17 pm to jennyjones
I clearly don’t own an iMac or Apple laptop
Posted on 6/13/22 at 6:54 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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iPad already uses USB-C
Phones are next.
Not the actual iPad yet but I think pro, air, and mini do.
Cook probably trying to use up supply purchased at lower price before switching.
Apple has liked to keep 1 year old iPhones, 2 year old iPhones and an SE with same outside design since the iPhone 6 (or 5/5s with original SE) as their lower price phones, and keeping the cables and plug in accessories similar along with remaining stock of lightning ports have probably all played a part in extending life of lightning.
Posted on 6/13/22 at 11:55 pm to Jsand43
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Good
Short-sighted. First of all, the lightning connector is under-rated. Second of all, we don't need these governments dictating technology and stifling innovation.
If apple comes out with a better port than usb-c they can't use it? They have to lobby some bureaucrats?
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:04 am to BeepNode
quote:Is it though? USB-C is an order of magnitude improvement in speed and power delivery.
First of all, the lightning connector is under-rated.
quote:Highly doubtful that this will stifle port connectivity innovation.
Second of all, we don't need these governments dictating technology and stifling innovation.
quote:They can, the device just also needs usb-c.
If apple comes out with a better port than usb-c they can't use it?
quote:Like they don't already? And if the port is truly better, and if Apple can manage to create a standard without exorbitant per-unit licensing fees attached, the rules allow for changing to a different port in the future.
They have to lobby some bureaucrats?
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:00 pm to Korkstand
Faster charging for a phone is not a big deal for most consumers.
USB-C is NOT objectively better than lightning for phones and headphones. It’s like your opinion, man. To me, lightning is sturdier and thinner.
“They can make something better than usb-c so long as it’s usbc-c”. - alrighty.
The real offenders are devices that still use micro and mini-USB.
USB-C is NOT objectively better than lightning for phones and headphones. It’s like your opinion, man. To me, lightning is sturdier and thinner.
“They can make something better than usb-c so long as it’s usbc-c”. - alrighty.
The real offenders are devices that still use micro and mini-USB.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:36 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
What is android versus iPhone share of market?
I thought Android was dominant in EU (worldwide possibly pushing into 80% of share area before long) and seems like most chords would be for USB-C anyway. It’s more competitive in US and maybe Japan and UK and a few other places, but everywhere else Android dominates. It’s weird they push back on apple for this, pay service on phone & App Store, App Store, and other apple services which seem like plays right into Google’s advantage. Apple can’t out google Google.
The US and the EU need to focus on why only 2 true choices across the globe and not weaken the things most apple users like about apple over google (not lightning at this point but other stuff).
I think EU is pushing these as being for consumers but they are really more for EU businesses. I think that’s also behind looking into forcing communication (or maybe social) apps to allow access by other apps.
The US needs to push ahead into having to opt in to selling info not opt out.
I thought Android was dominant in EU (worldwide possibly pushing into 80% of share area before long) and seems like most chords would be for USB-C anyway. It’s more competitive in US and maybe Japan and UK and a few other places, but everywhere else Android dominates. It’s weird they push back on apple for this, pay service on phone & App Store, App Store, and other apple services which seem like plays right into Google’s advantage. Apple can’t out google Google.
The US and the EU need to focus on why only 2 true choices across the globe and not weaken the things most apple users like about apple over google (not lightning at this point but other stuff).
I think EU is pushing these as being for consumers but they are really more for EU businesses. I think that’s also behind looking into forcing communication (or maybe social) apps to allow access by other apps.
The US needs to push ahead into having to opt in to selling info not opt out.
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:47 pm to BeepNode
quote:You are missing the point, which is to reduce waste and consumer frustration. It is far better to have the ability to charge faster and not need it than to require a different plug specifically for one device for absolutely no benefit and less capabilities.
Faster charging for a phone is not a big deal for most consumers.
quote:In terms of specs and cost, it is objectively better. Your opinion can be that it being slightly smaller and sturdier or whatever outweighs the laundry list of cons, but you are in the minority.
USB-C is NOT objectively better than lightning for phones and headphones. It’s like your opinion, man. To me, lightning is sturdier and thinner.
quote:That is obviously not what I said. They can put whatever ports they want on it, but it needs usb-c also.
“They can make something better than usb-c so long as it’s usbc-c”. - alrighty.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 3:24 pm to BeepNode
quote:I mean, it does everything better.
USB-C is NOT objectively better than lightning for phones and headphones
Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:21 pm to AlxTgr
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I mean, it does everything better
Yes, usb-c is better at losing abikity to snap in snugly, better at getting bent, better at taking up space, etc.
I have my original lightning cables and have never had to replace them. They physically better imo but I’m not a spec geek when it comes to my phone.
If you need rapid charging beyond what lightning can do, you are using your phone too much and by all means get usb-c if you like that.
I don’t know why all you busybodies feel the need to mandate what others do. How is me using lightning hurting you? Don’t buy phones that use lightning if you don’t like it.
Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:30 pm to BeepNode
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If you need rapid charging beyond what lightning can do, you are using your phone too much and by all means get usb-c if you like that
This is a really weird take. I’m not sure I’ve ever met someone who didn’t want their phones to charge faster than they currently do
Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:31 pm to Joshjrn
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This is a really weird take. I’m not sure I’ve ever met someone who didn’t want their phones to charge faster than they currently do
I haven't run out of battery on my phone in years and a rarely use any charging cable at all.
The truly weird take is that you truly believe you should be mandating that everyone use the same charging ports and cables as you.
Nanny state normalization has expanded to all aspects of life.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 12:49 am to BeepNode
quote:Funny, Apple's lightning cables get pretty bad ratings. They break easily and the contacts wear out. And they charge $19 for one. A $19 usb-c cable would be indestructible.
Yes, usb-c is better at losing abikity to snap in snugly, better at getting bent, better at taking up space, etc.
I have my original lightning cables and have never had to replace them. They physically better imo but I’m not a spec geek when it comes to my phone.
quote:It's not you alone, it's the combined weight of you and hundreds of millions of others who bought into an ecosystem of vendor lock-in that is wasteful and where the only real innovation is in extracting more money from customers to feed back into that waste machine. You might be the only person I've ever known who actually wants their phone to use a different cable than literally everything else and which comes with the added benefits of slower charging and slower data backups and shorter lifespan and 5x higher price tag.
I don’t know why all you busybodies feel the need to mandate what others do. How is me using lightning hurting you?
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:08 am to TygerDurden
quote:Along with a cord about three or four inches too short.
Just means a new apple dongle to keep up with.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:24 am to BeepNode
quote:So what you're saying is you have less experience with the problem at hand than the rest of us.
I haven't run out of battery on my phone in years and a rarely use any charging cable at all.
quote:Call it nanny state if you want, but there are plenty of examples of legislated standardization that has reaped great rewards. In this case, the Europeans are ridding themselves of a port that exists strictly because it comes on an otherwise popular product, and its sole purpose is to siphon money from people via direct sales and 3rd party licensing fees, and in return it offers negative value in the form of frustration. It's really hard to blame the Europeans for putting an end to sending hundreds of millions of dollars overseas each year while making life a little bit easier at the same time.
The truly weird take is that you truly believe you should be mandating that everyone use the same charging ports and cables as you.
Nanny state normalization has expanded to all aspects of life.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:05 am to BeepNode
quote:Has never happened to me. Have had it ever since offered.
usb-c is better at losing abikity to snap in snugly, better at getting bent
quote:What?
better at taking up space, etc.
quote:See above and this really isn't relevant.
I have my original lightning cables and have never had to replace them
quote:Support this.
They physically better
quote:This is simply ignorant.
If you need rapid charging beyond what lightning can do, you are using your phone too much and by all means get usb-c if you like that.
quote:Wow
I don’t know why all you busybodies feel the need to mandate what others do. How is me using lightning hurting you? Don’t buy phones that use lightning if you don’t like it.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:35 am to BeepNode
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I haven't run out of battery on my phone in years and a rarely use any charging cable at all.
Then your opinion on the subject is useless.
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The truly weird take is that you truly believe you should be mandating that everyone use the same charging ports and cables as you.
Had you actually read the thread, you wouldn’t be posting this kind of blatantly untrue idiocy. Are you just spoiling for a fight or something?
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 11:36 am
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