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The Official 3D Printing Thread

Posted on 7/5/20 at 10:36 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57440 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 10:36 pm
Steming from the few 3d printing threads we have had I decided to make an all in one thread. I'll try to update the OP to include links and tutorials I have followed that are useful. But go into this knowing it isn't a plug and play hobby.

I have an Ender 5 Pro I bought during covid. A bunch of random brand filament as there has been a shortage since a bunch of people picked up the hobby during the shut down. I worked really hard to get the bed leveled and realized I have the common warped bed. I have used masking tape to level it out but it still needs some work. I have a BLTouch I was going to install today but I have been having a good bit of failed prints due to under extrusion from clogging the hotend. I did the PTFE tube fix when I got it but I guess I didn't tighten the tube and nozzle together well enough. I had oozing and ended up melting the tubing when I heated the hot in up to clean it out, then ruined the hot end trying to remove the melted tube.

I have a new micro swiss all metal hot end coming in the week along with a direct drive kit from printermods. So I'll install all 3 upgrades at once.

I installed a bootloader and updated Marlin to 1.1.9.1, there looks to be a newer version but I used teachingtech's guide and config files.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 9:14 am
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 11:34 pm to
I’ve gotten to the point where I don’t like to discuss it anymore. We’ve gotten to the point where too many people are buying them expecting to be able to print anything without learning. They don’t want to learn to properly model and expect to get models for free from everyone. You print something and post it, then get demanded for your files without any offers for paying for them or they get angry when you don’t want to sell or give it to them because you may have interests in selling the product.
This post was edited on 7/5/20 at 11:41 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57440 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:11 am to
What have you modeled that I can demand from you?

I'm not even to that point yet. I'm still just printing things to tune and learn the printer. I have thought if anything I need to model and prototype yet.

I do hope that this thread doesn't turn into that. I was hoping it would be more centered around helping with print issues and settings.
Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
1021 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 7:14 am to
Great idea for a thread, I just started 3d printing with a borrowed Makerbot Replicator. Last week I ordered an Ender 3 and have a few upgrades already on order too, SKR mini E3 V2.0 with touch screen, yellow screws, and have a few mods already printed. Looking forward to the learning process.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6839 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 7:22 am to
I've got a pair of RepRap Prusa clones, been running for years now.... and my 500x500x500 Hypercube, that I'm
getting ready to cut dow to 200mm working Z and convert over to be a full time laser.

And FedEx is delivering my little CNC setup today to play with
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 7:24 am
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 7:59 am to
quote:

What have you modeled that I can demand from you?

I'm not even to that point yet.


Lol

Start out in something at least on the level of Fusion 360. It all depends on what you want to model too. Something like fusion 360 is good if you want to make functional pieces and parts and is very beginner friendly. I personally use mostly blender because I was more into character and game design when I learned to model, but use it to do some functional pieces.

Settings and config issues would be better to find forums for that specific printer. They can vary too wildly between different printers.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57440 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:17 am to
I was more meaning idk what i want to model. I know my way around sketchup and dabble in autocad and microstation. If it is something intricate i can get my cadd tech to help me.

Really the only think i can think of right now is modeling some wedges to angle my center channel speaker down a few degrees so it hits you in the face on the sofa and thats going to be pretty easy to model.

Whats crazy is the cheap PLA i got on ebay is running the best at 215C. but still has stringing. any lower temp i had big under extrusion issues. I do think it had to do with my hotend getting clogged. Once i get this all metal hotend installed ill do another temp test and get a new baseline.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 9:30 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57440 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:28 am to
Id love to get a cnc and laser set up. i have watched a few videos of buys building real big ones. Once i get this Ender up and running smoothly, Id like to build one from scratch with aluminum extrusions and all printed parts. But i needed to get my feet wet with modding this Ender. i think i will feel confident designing and building my own after i get all these parts installed and set up the BLTouch nd Octoprint on this one.
Posted by dtett
Jiggacity
Member since Oct 2018
511 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:21 am to
I too bought a 3d printer, Anycubic I3 Mega S, during covid to mess with. I've only ever used PLA and have printed a couple decent prints from Thingiverse.

I modeled a fishing pole holder for my boat a long time ago and have been attempting to print it. The issue I'm running into is lack of adhesion on the edges of the plate. I've checked level each failure and have found that even though all corners are level, the center is not. Seems as though the rods for my x axis sag in the middle. I may try the masking tape leveling.

I'll also be looking to print in abs for said part due to the heat tolerance properties.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57440 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:24 am to
Yea my center is lower. Try the masking tape fix. Then move to an auto leveling BLTouch if you want to go that route.

As far as ABS, I don't think you won't be able to print in ABS without a heated enclosure. Have you looked into PETG yet?
Posted by dtett
Jiggacity
Member since Oct 2018
511 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:31 am to
You know, I'm not sure why I decided on abs. Petg would work in my application. I probably landed on abs due to it's UV tolerance but since then I've decided to paint the part anyways.

I planned to build an enclosure but I haven't gotten that far yet.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:08 am to
Go with ASA, will hold up better in the sun and water.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 11:10 am
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6839 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:41 am to
Have you guys looked into setting up auto-leveling for your less than level print surface? On one of my printers I use a stainless build plate and an inductive sensor. So before each print it runs and measures a 16 point grid, stores the values for each point and compensates the Z height accordingly. It's all configured in Marlin, lots of howto videos out there, contrary to a lot of reading I find the inductive sensors work better and more consistant for me than the BLtouch
Posted by dtett
Jiggacity
Member since Oct 2018
511 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:42 am to
You're killing me.

I guess I'll cancel my petg amazon order and do more research...
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Have you guys looked into setting up auto-leveling for your less than level print surface? On one of my printers I use a stainless build plate and an inductive sensor. So before each print it runs and measures a 16 point grid, stores the values for each point and compensates the Z height accordingly. It's all configured in Marlin, lots of howto videos out there, contrary to a lot of reading I find the inductive sensors work better and more consistant for me than the BLtouch


I have a heavily modded Prusa MK3S, auto leveling is the only way I would go now. The non auto leveling printers are good and cheap though for people just trying to figure out if they want to do this.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 11:46 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57440 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

, contrary to a lot of reading I find the inductive sensors work better and more consistent for me than the BLtouch
i dont think inductive sensors work with glass beds. Thats why most people use the bltouch because the print surface doesnt mater.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57440 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

Go with ASA, will hold up better in the sun and water.


i see a heated enclosure is recommend, is it as important to do that as it is with ABS?

TeachingTech made his Ender 5 enclosed and i have thought about it.
Posted by jambrous
Member since Jun 2010
488 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:50 pm to
Just an FYI, you don't really HAVE to have an enclosure to print ABS. I printed some ABS with my Ender 5 Pro. Now, I printed it in a room nobody uses and closed the AC vent. I ain't trying to discount any of your post because ABS is really tricky to print with an open printer, I'm just saying it's possible.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57440 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Just an FYI, you don't really HAVE to have an enclosure to print ABS.
yea you dont HAVE to but i dont think you would get anything decent if you dont have a somewhat hot ambient temp.
quote:

I printed some ABS with my Ender 5 Pro. Now, I printed it in a room nobody uses and closed the AC vent.
how did it turn out? what were your temps set at(bed/nozzle)?
quote:

ain't trying to discount any of your post because ABS is really tricky to print with an open printer, I'm just saying it's possible.

oohh no prob we are all learning in here.

could be easy to bring the printer out to the store room what probably is high 90s in the middle of the summer and print in ABS. But the enclosed build Teaching Tech did was interesting.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

i see a heated enclosure is recommend, is it as important to do that as it is with ABS?

TeachingTech made his Ender 5 enclosed and i have thought about it.


I print everything in an enclosure, so I am not sure how it performs without it. I built the top of the ikea lack table enclosure for mine, but used a sturdier table to set the printer on because the lack tables are too wobbly.
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