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re: The day finally arrived, Samsung to Apple

Posted on 4/22/22 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
11084 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 4:20 pm to
Plenty of companies make money while having open source code.

Having a company with closed source software, a closed ecosystem, and controlling communication and connectivity for the vast majority of the American population is not something to cheer for regardless of how much you enjoy the product.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18697 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 4:53 pm to
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Google makes their revenues by giving away everything for free and then data mining the shite out of you. Apple doesn't, so why should they drop the gates?



I'm not saying the abusive relationship isn't in Apple's best interest monetarily, at least in the short and medium term. I just think it's very bad for the tech ecosystem and arguably morally questionable. I opposed Microsoft when it tried to lock the web into IE6 or block interoperability with Office formats. I oppose Google's attempts to control the web's content through AdSense. And I oppose Apple's attempts to control the smartphone market by locking in chat functionality. And just personally, I'm the type of user who will gladly spend money and time to avoid these companies when they engage in that type of behavior.
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
11084 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 5:50 pm to
Although I do suggest becoming a signal evangelist as opposed to relying to heavily on Blue Bubbles Server to remain using iMessage.

Signal has an extremely low barrier to entry.

Downloaded app.

Receive text code.

Done.

Better privacy than iMessage. Cross platform. Feature parity(typing indicators, read receipts, full resolution attachments, etc)

Although it's much easier to switch when you are a dad and your social circle is basically family and a few close friends.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 5:56 pm
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18697 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:32 pm to
Signal is my default SMS app and originally I was just going to force it like you suggest (I was moving to GrapheneOS whether BlueBubbles worked or not), but at the end of the day my wife and my mother are the only two people I text with that level of influence. They'd still be using iMessage for everyone else and so would I, so it seems pointless to push it on them. I do have my wife use Signal for video calls as that's more convenient than setting up a FaceTime weblink.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10296 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 9:50 pm to


Apple people want all their decisions made for them.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10296 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 9:55 pm to
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You can't receive uncompressed video from outside the Apple eco-system because iMessage doesn't support RCS.

But you probably don't want to do that because gross green bubble, right?


Apple could fix this by becoming more open and interoperable. But they won't. Because they want their average user to see shitty video and green bubbles and assume it's because anything but apple sucks.



Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
12384 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 6:45 am to
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Apple could fix this by becoming more open and interoperable. But they won't. Because they want their average user
Explain to me how it's to Apple's advantage to do that. I'm sure its stockholders would love to know.
This post was edited on 4/23/22 at 8:02 am
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
11084 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 9:47 am to
The same way Microsoft shareholders had to have it explained to them that Internet Explorer was a monopoly and action was taken in order to save the internet.

It might not be best for Apple shareholders, but better to open up on your own terms than get anti trust to make you open up on someone elses.
This post was edited on 4/23/22 at 9:49 am
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 4/23/22 at 10:14 am to
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but better to open up on your own terms than get anti trust to make you open up on someone elses.


Apple doesn't control enough of the market to be considered a monopoly. Google on the other hand...
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
11084 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 11:57 am to
They both are monopolies.

Google in search.

Apple in mobile devices. In the US I think it's over 80% with younger audiences and growing extremely fast with gen Z. In another decade Android within the states will probably be close to extinction if something doesn't change.

This post was edited on 4/23/22 at 11:59 am
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 3:04 pm to
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Apple people want all their decisions made for them.



That's a very sheepish thing to say.

It's a phone. It's mean to be used. Ease of use is big.
I've never seen anyone do something with a Google-based phone that made me go "wow I am really missing out".

There was a time when I switched to a pixel and it honestly creeped me the frick out because I was getting ads based on where I went. There were some other creepy things that happened that I can't really explain because it involves facebook, which is a separate company but it stopped happening after I got rid of my pixel and went back to Apple.

This post was edited on 4/23/22 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10296 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 4:18 pm to
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That's a very sheepish thing to say.


How many people do you know who have the iPhone AND the iPad AND the Apple Buds AND the Apple watch AND the macbook?

Tons of them. In any other a scenario that would be cultish.



Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 4:30 pm to
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How many people do you know who have the iPhone AND the iPad AND the Apple Buds AND the Apple watch AND the macbook?

Tons of them. In any other a scenario that would be cultish.


It's like that because they work well together. I prefer macs for scripting and webdev because it is unix-like, and I prefer macs for audio production because it runs so freaking well with Logic Pro X (and LPX is amazing).

I have an iphone because it's easy and I don't have to frick with it much. It used to be that a big advantage was receiving calls and texts on my computer as well but it looks like you can at least do the texts with android phones on a windows app as well now. I don't have an tablet because i don't have a usecase for it but if I wanted one I would get an iPad because it would integrate with everything else I have. Oh, and I have an apple watch because it works well with my other apple shite. It makes sense and doesn't mean you're part of a cult.

I hate Apple as a company because of the SJW and Chinese slave labor stuff, but I also hate Google. At least Apple has a history of valuing privacy. You would have to become Amish if you boycotted every company that did something shitty.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16272 posts
Posted on 4/23/22 at 5:33 pm to
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How many people do you know who have the iPhone AND the iPad AND the Apple Buds AND the Apple watch AND the macbook?

Tons of them. In any other a scenario that would be cultish.



Honestly I don't know a lot of people that bought all that outright themselves. I know some people with half that through work and acquire the rest themselves.

I have all that, but also have Windows laptop/pc, android phone, sennheiser headphones, surface tablet, and a bunch of other shite too. I just like tech and don't give a frick about stupid arse brand loyalty.
This post was edited on 4/23/22 at 5:35 pm
Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
12384 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 2:20 am to
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How many people do you know who have the iPhone AND the iPad AND the Apple Buds AND the Apple watch AND the macbook?

Tons of them. In any other a scenario that would be cultish.



That's an ignorant statement no doubt coming from someone who obviously has no knowledge of what he is talking bout and has no understanding of how well they all work together.

Oh and don't forget AirPods max, HomePods, and the iMac.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84213 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:52 am to
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Ease of use is big.
I do not find them easy to use.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28773 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 10:49 am to
I had the original Motorola Droid phone and have had some version of an Android phone ever since. Most recently I've had a couple of the Google Pixel phones. I never had any problem with Android phones. Work pays for my cell phone and recently switched me over to an Apple phone. It's my first time using an Apple phone and I have zero complaints. I don't really get what the argument is. Use whatever the hell you like. They each have benefits so use whatever works best for you.
Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 11:21 am to
I've been pretty happy with Pixel since the 2nd one...
Posted by RumHam
Huntsville
Member since Jun 2021
3969 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 7:41 am to
Just youtube iPhone 13 or iOS 15 tips and tricks. YouTube helped me a lot when I made the switch. Endless resources on there.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14520 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:32 pm to
I have a love hate relationship with apple. I like their iOS devices for stability and seamlessness.

But I like Android for flexibility. I can buy an anroid tablet with a 1tb of on board memory and add a 1tb micro SD. Also youtube download sites work better with android and I can play ISO files of my DVD's.

I have yet to find a way to play ISO files on iOS.
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