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Tell me about you home audio systems, and DIY?
Posted on 7/5/23 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 7/5/23 at 1:09 pm
I’m thinking about putting some in-ceiling speakers for 2 zones: patio and living room (both ceilings easily accessible via attic). Have plenty of related questions. Is this pretty feasible as a DIY project? I’m kinda paranoid about cutting a giant hole in my ceiling but did see they make hole saws for this, which eases the anxiety slightly. Anyone who’s done this before, would appreciate tips. Also what’s the ideal Amplifier/receiver location? I’m guessing if it’s in a convenient location (living room) then I’d have to run wires through the wall which is not ideal and probably out of my wheelhouse. I’m no audiophile but I don’t want chinese junk either, recs on speakers and/or amps/receivers? Any other thoughts or insight appreciated.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 1:16 pm to Sir Saint
The speakers will come with templates to cut the holes. Just use a drywall saw.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 1:30 pm to Sir Saint
quote:I would say so if you're reasonably handy.
Is this pretty feasible as a DIY project?
quote:Like I always tell my wife, it's only sheetrock.
I’m kinda paranoid about cutting a giant hole in my ceiling

quote:I would probably just use a cheap manual drywall saw.
did see they make hole saws for this, which eases the anxiety slightly.
quote:Lay out the hole from in the attic to avoid joists etc., and drill one or more tiny holes through to landmark. Cut the actual hole from below to avoid blowing out the sheetrock paper on the finished side. Vacuum the dust while sawing.
would appreciate tips
quote:It's harder than coming through the ceiling but not too bad. You will need the wires and equipment near a power outlet, but don't run your speaker wires between the same two studs as the 110v. Locate where the romex for the outlet comes out the top plate in the attic, measure 16" over in either direction and drill a new hole for your speaker wires. You will need a spade/paddle bit or an auger bit for this. If the romex for that outlet doesn't come straight up and through the top plate, push a wire hanger or similar through the ceiling right next to the crown molding to make a landmark in the attic for where you want to come through the top plate. You can also do this to initially mark the speaker locations if you can't determine where they should go from inside the attic only. Be aware of interior features like trim while laying things out in the attic.
I’d have to run wires through the wall which is not ideal and probably out of my wheelhouse
Cut a hole in the sheetrock where the wires will come out, drop the wires through the top plate hole and cross your fingers that there's no fire blocking in there. If there is blocking, you can either come out of the wall with your wires above it if that won't be trashy for your setup, or pop through the blocking with a flexible cable installer bit.
Oh and if you plan to put your gear against an exterior (insulated) wall, choose a new location or hire it out.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 7/5/23 at 1:42 pm to Korkstand
I'll add use blue tape to secure the template. Measure from the front wall to the front of the template and match on the other template. If you're centering from the side wall match those distances as well. Closer to the front wall will give you better bass response as the wall reinforces the sound. Just putting them dead center in a room can lead to anemic bass.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:22 pm to Korkstand
This was incredibly helpful, thank you.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:19 pm to Sir Saint
Anyone have suggestion on some mid range equipment that’s not total junk but also not top of the line/$$$$?
Posted on 7/5/23 at 9:55 pm to Sir Saint
I have klipsch speakers in ceiling with a Dennon receiver and a JL sub. A klipsch sub would be a much more reasonable cost option to match speakers. I’d probably go Yamaha next time instead of dennon but overall it’s a good setup.
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:24 pm to VABuckeye
Maybe like $200/speaker? For amp/receiver I haven’t really priced anything to don’t know how much those run.
Thx for the recs, good jumping off point for me.
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Thx for the recs, good jumping off point for me.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:02 am to Sir Saint
You can get pretty solid ceiling ceiling speakers off crutchfield for less than 100/speaker.
OP if your diying look into doing an in wall center channel. Recently did this at my house and it made a HUGE difference in conversations in movies or play by play on live sports.
Denon receiver is best budget option. You can buy certified used off Amazon or direct from denons website and usually save a couple bucks.
OP if your diying look into doing an in wall center channel. Recently did this at my house and it made a HUGE difference in conversations in movies or play by play on live sports.
Denon receiver is best budget option. You can buy certified used off Amazon or direct from denons website and usually save a couple bucks.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:38 am to Sir Saint
I have a set up similar to what you're talking about. I bought the receiver I am using initially because of the bluetooth feature. It's a nothing special Pioneer stereo receiver. I say that, but I would not change a thing, and I have done a lot of research to see if I should.
The receiver sits hidden in a cabinet in my den. That's where all the in ceiling and patio wiring ends up. The wiring goes to a speaker selector then volume controls for each set of speakers-two on the patio. I am using a chromecast audio( there are other streamers for other services like the WiiM mini and pro) and I never have to deal with the receiver unless the power goes out. I just fire up my music app or tell my google assistant to play something. It's a beautiful thing. Even the tech-challenged new wife can use it.
The receiver sits hidden in a cabinet in my den. That's where all the in ceiling and patio wiring ends up. The wiring goes to a speaker selector then volume controls for each set of speakers-two on the patio. I am using a chromecast audio( there are other streamers for other services like the WiiM mini and pro) and I never have to deal with the receiver unless the power goes out. I just fire up my music app or tell my google assistant to play something. It's a beautiful thing. Even the tech-challenged new wife can use it.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:18 am to AlxTgr
Monoprice has good cheap in wall/ceiling speakers
Posted on 7/9/23 at 11:13 am to Sir Saint
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I’m no audiophile but I don’t want chinese junk either
Slapping some speakers in the drywall is gonna sound pretty arse regardless. Might as well get as cheap as you can.
They need a box and be mounted to the joists. If you can't do that, i wouldn't even bother installing them.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:29 pm to j1897
Well, I installed four high-end Klipsch ceiling speakers — about $250 each — and they sound “badass” and not “arse”.
You won’t go wrong with a Marantz or Yamaha receiver. SVS makes quality subs. As for any other speakers there is a world of great sound out there.
Trouble is that you are wanting advice on a product you know absolutely nothing about. Do a little homework by visiting a place like the Magnolia Store at Best Buy. Hear ‘em and price ‘em yourself. When you’ve got a handle on your budget and taste, then come back and ask about reliability, etc.
Go ahead, have fun, planning and putting the system together is a lot of the enjoyment.
You won’t go wrong with a Marantz or Yamaha receiver. SVS makes quality subs. As for any other speakers there is a world of great sound out there.
Trouble is that you are wanting advice on a product you know absolutely nothing about. Do a little homework by visiting a place like the Magnolia Store at Best Buy. Hear ‘em and price ‘em yourself. When you’ve got a handle on your budget and taste, then come back and ask about reliability, etc.
Go ahead, have fun, planning and putting the system together is a lot of the enjoyment.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:52 am to MDB
quote:
Trouble is that you are wanting advice on a product you know absolutely nothing about.
fair enough, thx for the input all

Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:12 am to AlxTgr
Looking to eventually do something similar to this/OP but with room for expansion to other zones too. I would like to start with a 2 zone (inside living room/kitchen and outside patio) but with options to add zones like master bedroom or elsewhere. I want easy smart phone functionality that is wife proof where she can say I want to listen to spotify in the kitchen and its done. One question I do have is how easy is it to integrate TV sound to this so for instance if I want the outside zone to play outside tv sound while the inside plays spotify?
Posted on 7/11/23 at 9:37 am to j1897
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Might as well get as cheap as you can.
This is awful advice.
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:42 am to Sir Saint
I use separate AB receivers for indoors and outdoors.
Marantz and Yamaha are good receivers and you can find decent deals on them sometimes. You don’t need the latest greatest models.
I’ll say this tho, if I had to choose I’d go with the Yamaha because of the app. AV receiver remotes are huge and you’ll only use a half dozen of the hundred buttons on them. Much easier to use your app to control them.
Marantz and Yamaha are good receivers and you can find decent deals on them sometimes. You don’t need the latest greatest models.
I’ll say this tho, if I had to choose I’d go with the Yamaha because of the app. AV receiver remotes are huge and you’ll only use a half dozen of the hundred buttons on them. Much easier to use your app to control them.
Posted on 7/12/23 at 1:18 pm to deuceiswild
This is one of the things I love about Chromecast. It's as if my receiver isn't even there. I do everything with either the home app or my music apps.
Posted on 7/12/23 at 5:42 pm to deuceiswild
Speaking of apps, Denon also has a nice app for smartphones.
My Denon is hard-wired to my router, and of course, I use iphone on wifi to control all zones easily.
My Denon is hard-wired to my router, and of course, I use iphone on wifi to control all zones easily.
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