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Telescope recommendations?

Posted on 3/6/22 at 9:26 am
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
1496 posts
Posted on 3/6/22 at 9:26 am
I've always wanted a nice telescope for evenings on the back deck with my Dad, brother, Mom, and sister-in-law.

Never had one. Don't KNOW anyone that has ever had one either.

My parents are getting up in age, so if I'm going to do this, the sooner the better.

Any recommendations for features? Do's and dont's? Accessories?

Maybe choices in the under $1000 range? $1000-$3000? Over $3000?

If you have a nice telescope and could go back and buy another one....what would you do differently?
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
9739 posts
Posted on 3/6/22 at 9:58 am to
Get an 8 inch dobsonian. Can be had around 500 new. Try to find a used one for even cheaper. Get a good Barlow lense and some budget eyepieces. If you decide you like it after a few months, you can upgrade the eyepieces
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
12384 posts
Posted on 3/6/22 at 11:55 am to
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Get an 8 inch dobsonian.


this is the correct answer.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
21700 posts
Posted on 3/6/22 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

this is the correct answer.


maybe, maybe not. The OP should find an astronomy club in his area and attend the monthly star party and gaze through several different types of scopes.


I've sold several of my telescopes over the past year so I'm down to only six. (You just can't have too many telescopes) The telescope I'm using most now is a 4½ reflector, but I've used 4" refractor frequently and an 11" Schmidt-Cassegrain (somewhat of a hybrid between a reflector and refractor).

My 4½" reflector, the Unistellar eQuinox, is the most user-friendly telescope I've ever encountered. It aligns itself and goes to whatever object you command it, but it is also rather expensive for a first telescope.

While the 8" Dobsonian is an excellent telescope, it may no be as user friendly as a 3" refractor on a decent GoTo mount.

For your viewing pleasure here is an image of three galaxies in Constellation Leo, I made last night with my 4½" Unistellar.



and here is an image of Andromeda Galaxy I made with a 3" refractor several years ago:

This post was edited on 3/6/22 at 3:03 pm
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
1496 posts
Posted on 3/6/22 at 4:20 pm to
Great responses, all. Keep 'em coming.

Never thought about a local astronomy club. Going to check into that!
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
12384 posts
Posted on 3/6/22 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

maybe, maybe not.


What are your price points?

Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
21700 posts
Posted on 3/6/22 at 5:14 pm to
quote:


What are your price points?


No question a Dobsonian gets the biggest bang for the buck, but that might not be the optimum telescope for a first time beginner. The Dobsonian has some disadvantages:

They are not lightweight

They require frequent collimation (not a easy task for a beginner).

Not really good for astrophotography which almost everyone will want to try.

Here is a website discussing various scopes for a beginner:

9 Best Telescopes for Amateur Astronomer
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
1496 posts
Posted on 3/6/22 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

What are your price points?


I'd like to find the best bang for the buck in 3 different levels:

Under $1000
$1000-$3000
Over $3000

Honestly probably looking in the $1000-2000 range-ish.
This post was edited on 4/2/22 at 11:52 pm
Posted by Dr.Funke
Not a real Doctor
Member since Dec 2011
659 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:35 am to
I just got my 10 inch dob delivered a few days ago. I have set it up in my street 3 nights and it is incredible.

An 8 inch would be easier to move but I don't have any trouble with the 10 inch. I'm 6 foot 2 so long arms.

All the brands are pretty much the same scope the price varies depending on what accessories come with it. I got the apertura Ad10. It comes with 2 okay eyepieces a laser collimator, and a pretty good right angle finder scope. You need a laser collimator and a good finder scope if you wanted to buy those separately with a brand that sells pretty much just the scope.

I paid $850 but the price went up $100 a week after I ordered. I ordered in early January and just got it last week. I think they have some of the brand I got in stock now

I just purchased two televue lenses and spent right at $500
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2890 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:25 pm to
I've had 7, 8, 12, and 14" meade lx 200's
9 1/4" celestron SCT
Tak FS102
And a Televue NP127IS

I still have the Televue and the 7" lx200. The 7" meade mak is awesome on planets. I would jump on another 9 1/4" celestron or a 11" celestron if one came along.

If you have light polluted skies, don't waste money on extra aperture that you won't be able to take advantage of without a trip to a dark sky site, unless you plan to do that.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
22227 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 1:34 pm to
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and here is an image of Andromeda Galaxy I made with a 3" refractor several years ago:


My parents bought some nice property on a good bit of acreage in Montana. Needless to say they have some great views and it’s plenty dark around them. They’ve turned it into an Airbnb when they aren’t staying there and I’m wanting to contribute to the house and I had a telescope in mind.

I’m as novice as they come (i.e. I think I looked into a telescope once before at some point in my life) and like OP don’t know where to start. My parents for sure and guests alike probably don’t care to “create” any images like you are able to do, but do you actually get views like that pictured above just by looking into your telescope? If so, I’m sold.

They dont care much for technology but I know they’d love to roll one, smoke one and sit on their porch and look through the telescope all night on a clear night and take in sights like that.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
21700 posts
Posted on 3/10/22 at 2:58 pm to
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but do you actually get views like that pictured above just by looking into your telescope?


You can get views of Andromeda Galaxy through a 3" telescope, but it would appear only as a faint, fuzzy oblong. To get the image of Andromeda I had to "stack" 61 different exposures.

To get a good view of Andromeda, and other galaxies and nebulae, you would need to go with a much larger aperture - maybe in the range of 8" to 10".
Posted by pheroy
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2006
738 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 2:55 pm to
One question that seems to be a factor in choosing a scope is whether you have any specific targets in mind, i.e. planets vs deep sky / distant objects. If you don't and just want general observing it won't differentiate as much but if you have a strong leaning, it could. Planets can be better served by a smaller aperture scope, say 4" refractor, with high quality optics for the clearest image. Deep sky stuff is fainter so you want a bigger "photon bucket" so a 10" reflector (Dobsonian, Schmidt-Cassegrain) would make more sense. If this is staying on a back deck and not being carted around to star parties the bigger scope is less of an issue. (Note, I haven't used a scope myself in quite some time; there are a lot of tech features and so on with automated target finding etc. that is really cool, in addition to imaging.)

This post was edited on 3/11/22 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2890 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:18 pm to
The most impressed I've ever been was at a McDonald Observatory star party and there was an assortment of scopes the locals had set up and one guy had a 20" IIRC, Dob set up on M51. I could see the color in the galaxy arms and was blown away by the steadiness of the image. Here in Central Tx we usually get the wavy distortions at high power.

The following M51 was from Harwood with a Televue NP127IS saddled to a Losmandy G11 and used a Canon 5dMK2, IIRC, 30 5 minute guided shots

Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
1496 posts
Posted on 3/11/22 at 11:27 pm to
I'll admit I don't understand virtually any terminology mentioned. Lol. Sigh.

I have plenty of dark sky at my place here in Arkansas. Same thing at my parent's place. It's even better sky at their place. Nice, remote, and wide open areas.

So, I wouldn't lug it around much. Maybe once every couple of months. The rest of the time would be on my deck.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
5726 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:16 am to
It's pretty humbling to think that, Andromeda Galaxy is about 2.6 million light years away. And that it's relatively close to earth. I looked up the furthest known object in space is a galaxy 13.4 Billion light years away.

Then, you look up size of the universe and there's some number like 92 Billion light years across...

Sorry for the derail. It's just one of those things that never ceases to amaze me.

Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2890 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:55 am to
Don't be intimidated by the terminology. If you have dark sky access then that really opens up what scopes you can take advantage of. I've liked the schmidts due to their compact tube size for going somewhere, even though they don't necessarily deliver the sharpest views. If all you are interested in is visual, then a dob is hard to beat. Nothing wrong with a 4" doublet refractor. If you think you will want to get into photography, then you might want to read up on the usual progression one goes through by upgrading scopes and then mounts. Where one might have been better off just buying a higher end setup from the get go and learn it through and through. I've pulled my losmandy g11 mount out of the scope shed and am going to replace it with one of the newer mounts that do too many cool things to even begin to discuss.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
21700 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

The following M51 was from Harwood


I think you meant to say M31, the Andromeda Galaxy.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2890 posts
Posted on 3/12/22 at 6:42 pm to
It's hell getting old.
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
1496 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:28 am to
This guy really lights the fire in me to stargaze. If you haven't watched his videos, I would highly recommend him.

Strongly looking at a Dob now thru High Point Scientific. Apparently the price has gone up recently. But this is still much cheaper than I thought for something that looks like a quality piece in the Dob AD8.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 1:29 am
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