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jcole4lsu
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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Are you saying you come across multiple people with CISSPs? Because from what I have read and been told that cert is in very high demand.




thats not the point. you aren't going to go from 0 to a job that is asking for a CISSP. thats just not how it works.
that job requirement is EXPERIENCE + CISSP. there is this crazy notion going around that cyber jobs are so in demand that you can walk in off the street, get a high level cert, and start making 80k+. thats bull shite. you won't even get past the first interview.


gmrkr5
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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Not necessarily...I groaned through several years as a local Analyst, but hired on a few months back to a much larger company and I just work from home


I worked in IT in BR for 15 years and hit the ceiling earnings and growth wise. Wife and I moved to the Raleigh area this summer, whole different ball game.


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gmrkr5
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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associate CISSP with no experience SCREAMS paper warrior (or brain dumper). headache who thinks he knows more than everyone else and will not be satisfied with the pay or work he is assigned. will move on in 6 months to a year. there are very few "entry level" jobs where the CISSP is relevant. actually, there are none unless you count the few and far between true entry level SOC Analyst 1 jobs. for every other entry position, a CCNA or MCSA are far more relevant to the work you'll be doing.


agree with all this.

i've been interviewing candidates for the last several weeks and every one of them had their CISSP. Most of them couldn't do the work that certification implies they should be able to do.

I got mine after i'd already been in infosec for several years.
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bluebarracuda
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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for every other entry position, a CCNA or MCSA are far more relevant to the work you'll be doing


Yea grabbing a CCNA is the first step I tell everyone in the entry level field.

I'm looking into some VMWare certs next or moving up the Cisco ladder.


Prairie Tiger
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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thats not the point. you aren't going to go from 0 to a job that is asking for a CISSP. thats just not how it works.


I get that part. I know I’m not gonna just waltz into a security job. I’ve just been told they are in demand and if you have one with experience you can walk into some good money.

What cities would y’all suggest? I’ve heard Dallas, Chicago and Charlotte are good right now.


gmrkr5
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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I get that part. I know I’m not gonna just waltz into a security job. I’ve just been told they are in demand and if you have one with experience you can walk into some good money. What cities would y’all suggest? I’ve heard Dallas, Chicago and Charlotte are good right now.


a CISSP is "in demand" but so are alot of other certifications.

Can't speak to Dallas or Chicago but the Charlotte to Raleigh area are all good


50_Tiger
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
If you have any training in Cloud environments, I can tell you within the next 2 years as Carriers move away from Classical BTS solutions to cloud based solutions, a demand will need to be filled.

Just throwing that out there. Telecom is about to be growing market again starting this year (2019).


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GrammarKnotsi
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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What cities would y’all suggest?


I turned down a pretty good offer with OLOL parent company in Reno..Look into them


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Brosef Stalin
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
CCNA is way above entry level in my experience. I have applied to over 100 jobs over the past year and not a single one asked for CCNA. Bachelor's, 3 years experience, and A+ seems to be the most common requirements in Baton Rouge for entry level.


Prairie Tiger
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Member since Oct 2016
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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Bachelor's, 3 years experience, and A+ seems to be the most common requirements in Baton Rouge for entry level.


Entry level requires 3 years experience now?

Just don't really get it these days. How do you get an entry level job with no experience? I'm back in school and have been in oil and gas for 6 years with a business degree from ULL and what I do for a living right now does not correlate to anything IT so I'm not sure how I will even get my foot in the door in IT then if this is true.
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Brosef Stalin
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Entry level requires 3 years experience now?

That's what Baton Rouge companies are asking for. I don't understand it either. You can still get interviews without it. I apply to jobs that I have 75-80% of what they're asking for.


gmrkr5
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Member since Jul 2009
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
"entry level" is typically 1-3 years pretty much everywhere


Prairie Tiger
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
I've been applying to anything and everything, regardless of what they are asking for. No luck obviously since I have 0 experience and my "related" work experience is not anything that most people understand so when they look at my resume they are reading my work experience as gibberish pretty much.

FML


gmrkr5
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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I've been applying to anything and everything, regardless of what they are asking for. No luck obviously since I have 0 experience and my "related" work experience is not anything that most people understand so when they look at my resume they are reading my work experience as gibberish pretty much.


your going to have to start at a very low level analyst or help desk job


Prairie Tiger
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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your going to have to start at a very low level analyst or help desk job


I know that.


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bluebarracuda
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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Bachelor's, 3 years experience, and A+ seems to be the most common requirements in Baton Rouge for entry level.


I had one of those 3 (A+) when I got my first job (two if you count an associates as a bachelors)
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Brosef Stalin
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
To me, entry level is education and a good attitude. Experience is a nice bonus. I've heard plenty of stories of people working for years without any sort of certification even. I've also heard, mainly on this board, that with nothing more than my two year degree, I would have jobs thrown at me left and right in Dallas or Houston. BTW I do have an interview tomorrow with a good company so there's always hope.


Prairie Tiger
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
Good luck man


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Kracka
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Member since Aug 2004
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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The exam was light on subnetting, however you need to know damn subnetting.


Ive learned subnetting in several different ways over the years. IMO, the way prof. Messer shows you is the easiest way I have ever seen.


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Kracka
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Grand Isle, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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I've got Network Pro, PC Pro, and Security Pro. They're totally useless as far as getting a job goes.


If you ever have any thoughts of doing any government work, they require CompTIA certs just to be considered.


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