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bluebarracuda
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
I've found that the only comptia exams that are worth a shite are A+ and Sec+

A+ only to get into a bottom entry level spot and Sec+ will get you plenty of government jobs in NOLA


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Kracka
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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Yea grabbing a CCNA is the first step I tell everyone in the entry level field.


I recommend this for anyone looking to do networking or security. Our company can't keep engineers in houston. Some of that has to do with the industry, maybe pay. I don't know how much they are offering.

I do know that I regret not taking the CCNA exam back in 2003 when I completed netacademy. Had a free voucher and all....idiot.

Now here I am starting all over studying for CCNA because I am tired of being in a stale position. It's tough. I've been doing IT for 15 years now. I am just tired of doing this same customer facing do everything type of deskside support.


bluebarracuda
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
I do a mix of server admin and network admin. I was so happy to finally be off of the deskside support team when I changed jobs


LSURep864
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
My first job after getting my CCNA has been disappointing. I was so ready to get off the help desk I bit at the first thing, it was a 12k pay raise and I needed the money.

However the ISP I work for sold the job like it was troubleshooting and configuring BGP, MPLS, etc. I was so excited.

Not anymore.

It’s basically a bunch of enterprise outage alarms where you run a few show commands, check some layer 1 alarms, and send the ticket somewhere else.

I’m sure after a couple years I could get my hands on some higher level stuff, but I feel like a monkey could do the shite I do now.

Kinda miss the help desk. Felt as if I was building more useful troubleshooting skills and logical thought.


Thinking about finding something in Desktop Support. Any opinions??!


bluebarracuda
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
Don't work for an ISP. My buddy is a CCNA and works for an ISP and hates it.

I know places like sparkhound and transformyx were always hiring CCNAs when I was looking for help desk jobs


LSURep864
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
I'm actually up in SC, which believe or not is probably a shittier IT job market than you guys think Baton Rouge is.

I hear all these stories about Raleigh, Charlotte, and Texas. Makes me jealous, guys get a CCNA and snag a solid job.

But yes can confirm, an ISP sucks. I may try to find a desktop role for a small to medium size company where I get my hands on a lot of stuff.


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jcole4lsu
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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It’s basically a bunch of enterprise outage alarms where you run a few show commands, check some layer 1 alarms, and send the ticket somewhere else.

welcome to T1.
T1 networking - that
T1 helpdesk - that
T1 security - that



LSURep864
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
Yeah that figures now. I left my help desk job because they sold it like it was more than T1.

At least I got a pay bump right,? Ha.


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Kracka
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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I do a mix of server admin and network admin.


This is what I want to do. I just need to stop being lazy. I bitch about being tired of doing deskside support, but I just really don't like the everyday routine, and it's just not challenging.

I shouldn't be basically starting over at 44, but i've been in a deskside mindset for so long it's hard to get motivated to get out. Especially since the hours are awesome. I am afraid that if I get into SysAdmin or NetAdmin areas, that my hours are going to drastically change, or have added stress. I just need to suck it up. I should have just taken the CCNA way back when and I wouldn't feel pigeonholed.


Kracka
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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I’m sure after a couple years I could get my hands on some higher level stuff, but I feel like a monkey could do the shite I do now.

Kinda miss the help desk. Felt as if I was building more useful troubleshooting skills and logical thought.


Your situation sounds like what I am afraid is going to happen if I get my CCNA. I will leave to test the waters, and end up fricking myself.

The company I work for has a good crew of Network admins/engineers. I'd like to work for them, and be able to keep as much of my current job duties as I can. We have VOIP throughout our company to configure, and troubleshoot. We have all sorts of remote sites across the world to troubleshoot and configure. There is plenty of work that I am interested in. Mainly Voice, it's just a matter of getting them to let me in. I just feel they want everyone physically in houston, and I'm not moving.


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bluebarracuda
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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I am afraid that if I get into SysAdmin or NetAdmin areas, that my hours are going to drastically change, or have added stress.


My hours haven't really changed all that much. Still working 40-50 hour weeks except my last job was at a school so it was nice having the paid vacations often.

As for the added stress, I haven't felt any. I'm confident in my work, so I don't feel the stress about doing more.


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Prairie Tiger
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
Been applying to jobs with 0 experience and in the middle of finishing my IT degree.
What’s the best way to attack the job market with 0 experience and unfinished degree. Little background- have. Business degree from a few years ago with oil and gas work experience for 7 years.


bluebarracuda
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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Business degree from a few years ago with oil and gas work experience for 7 years.


Constantly check all of the O&G companies for deskside opennings. Other then that, it'll be tough until you get that degree or certs


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Hulkklogan
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
It takes time to be able to get into a "big boy" role at an ISP. I worked in the call center then NOC for 4 years before i got into the network admin role, and I had to go above and beyond and beg for side bitch work that the guys didn't want to do.. and it takes longer at larger companies.

Once I get into the network administrator role, I didn't really get to dig into the highest level, biggest projects for 3 years. Because you think you know a lot when you get your CCNA, but you really don't know shite. Seriously. It takes a LONG time to spin someone up. Giving someone those projects who's not ready for them results in bad outages.

Just as soon as I proved myself in large infrastructure projects, a sales engineer spot opened up in the engineering team and I was offered it.. jumped on it. 4 years of overnight maintenance nearly weekly, often times multiple times per week, and on-call took its toll. Now I get to design networks for clients and make our network administrators do the work
This post was edited on 3/1 at 7:49 pm


LSURep864
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
To confirm what you are saying about. "You think you know shite when you get your CCNA, but you don't."


On Home labs I would use show run all the time to look over shite. The first time I ran a show run on an Edge router my mind was BLOWN at the amount of config.

That is the best example of certification vs experience.

| Include is my friend now.
This post was edited on 3/1 at 8:09 pm


Hulkklogan
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
That and the myriad of equipment and technology you just don't learn much about in the CCNA. MPLS, for example. And the sheer number of networks.. you have to learn the networks and build maps in your head. Voice networks, so you have to learn SIP. Video networks, so you have to learn some RF and IPTV. Access networks and various flavors of STP and how they interplay. ERPS. Management networks.. The list goes on. Then learning other vendors and how they do things.. Juniper, for example, is so different.
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LSUDropout
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
Getting a foot in the door can be difficult. A lot of it just comes down to luck or knowing someone. With that said, when an opportunity comes you need to impress people and stand out if you want to progress.

Some people prefer to work on a wide variety of things (servers, workstations, network, etc), however, if you really want to advance in the field you really need to specialize. Find a part of IT you enjoy the most and become an expert in it. Read, lab, practice - be curious. The more you learn the more you’ll realize you don’t know, but you need to treat that as a driver to work to better understand.


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Tchalla
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re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
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It’s basically a bunch of enterprise outage alarms where you run a few show commands, check some layer 1 alarms, and send the ticket somewhere else.

wouldn't be centurylink by chance would it?


LSURep864
LSU Fan
Spartanburg,SC
Member since Nov 2007
7071 posts

re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
No CenturyLink looks amazing compared to this place.


LSURep864
LSU Fan
Spartanburg,SC
Member since Nov 2007
7071 posts

re: Taking my Networks+ In 2 weeks. Advice? UPDATE
Started training at work on BGP, L3VPNs and QoS. A few weeks back I was on here bitching about not getting to do advanced enough things.


No more. Serious imposter syndrome today after that.


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