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re: Sunbird promising iMessage for android
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:05 am to TigerGman
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:05 am to TigerGman
Yup, they definitely won’t stand by and let it happen.
My hope would be the more attention things like this get, the more pressure it puts on apple to either adopt RCS or make iMessage cross platform. But both of those are probably pipe dreams and we will be stuck with a fractured messaging system indefinitely.
My hope would be the more attention things like this get, the more pressure it puts on apple to either adopt RCS or make iMessage cross platform. But both of those are probably pipe dreams and we will be stuck with a fractured messaging system indefinitely.
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:23 am to TigerinATL
Sir this was an excellent reply on the value of iMessage. Have an upvote!
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:25 am to TigerGman
quote:android users happy? appletards on imessage doesnt affect me. hell they can like my message and thumb it up just fine.
Yep. Or they can always tell their shareholders we'll lose potentially billions of dollars so we can make Android users happy...
Maybe you should talk to the draconian guy who kicks people out of his chat group, just because he has a different phone than him.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 11:34 am to dltigers3
Do not want
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:45 pm to dltigers3
quote:
My hope would be the more attention things like this get, the more pressure it puts on apple to either adopt RCS or make iMessage cross platform. But both of those are probably pipe dreams and we will be stuck with a fractured messaging system indefinitely.
I think the EU will probably force Apples hand like they are doing with usb-c
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:02 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
Maybe you should talk to the draconian guy who kicks people out of his chat group, just because he has a different phone than him.
It's not "because he has a different phone than him." It's because Apple deliberately has created iOS-Android messaging interoperability problems. But you knew that.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:09 pm to Giantkiller
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Apple will go scorched earth to stop it. They know iMessage is literally the only carrot they have left and my guess is they'll spend almost an infinite amount of $$$ to protect it.
Actually, I dunno about this to be honest. Charge users 3-5$ a month to use iMessage on any device would make $.
I actually believe I am more locked into an iphone because of my apple watch. My apple watch ultra shits on everything that IS NOT a Garmin that it feels like that has me locked in more than imessage.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:35 pm to Dam Guide
quote:thats a good thing.
I think the EU will probably force Apples hand like they are doing with usb-c
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:36 pm to efrad
quote:
It's not "because he has a different phone than him."
quote:so its because he has a different phone than him. Thats what i said.
It's because Apple deliberately has created iOS-Android messaging interoperability problems. But you knew that.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:41 pm to DoubleDown
quote:One area i wish google and 3rd parties would step their game up. I havent kept up but Samsun and ticwatch were the only things that came close to an apple watch alternative but always fell short.
I actually believe I am more locked into an iphone because of my apple watch. My apple watch ultra shits on everything that IS NOT a Garmin that it feels like that has me locked in more than imessage.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:57 pm to TigerGman
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make Android users happy...
I'm fully content with not having that dumb shite on my phone.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:02 pm to AlxTgr
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Can you explain this? I have never had an issue with it.
You can't react, edit, delete, sticker, basically ANY iMessage feature other than type and send, without it shitting on itself.
I don't believe you.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:42 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Can you explain this? I have never had an issue with it.
Example:
I'm in a group iMessage chat with my wife, her mom, her sister, and her sister's fiance. My mother-in-law frequently sends videos from her farm to the group. My sister-in-law just got a Galaxy Z Flip 4 phone and loves it. She showed it to me and I thought the concept was cool, and I am happy she has a phone she likes. But now when my mother-in-law sends videos to the group, they are extremely low resolution to accommodate sending an MMS to the one phone that doesn't do iMessage. So now my wife frequently messages her mom asking for the video to be sent direct so she can see it. Which pretty much defeats the point of the video being sent out to the group.
So now we have to all migrate to a different app or we have to kick her out of the group, or just deal with it.
Google has totally fricked up its strategy regarding messaging over the years, but Apple is clearly and obviously taking advantage of the situation and milking these inconveniences for their gain, against the experience of end users.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 2:43 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
so its because he has a different phone than him. Thats what i said.
No, it's because of the incompatibility problem, not the phone model owned. I have a Pixel 6 and use iMessage with BlueBubbles and absolutely no one kicks me out of group iMessages or objects to my participation even though I own a different phone. Normal people, in fact, don't really care about which model phone someone else owns.
These people are annoyed by the compatibility issues created by Apple restricting the distribution of their iMessage clients. Stop being a drama queen.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 3:42 pm to dltigers3
Zero point in Android having iMessage unless a lot of your contacts are on iPhones and you need the interoperability. I guess it could be useful for that.
But iMessage doesn't do anything Android texting apps don't do already. The problem with Android I guess is everyone uses different apps which can break things. For example, e2e encryption won't work on different texting apps (AFAIK).
I actually prefer Android and always have because I like open source. Apple has always locked their shite down and closed the code for review. This is despite their OS's being built on FreeBSD, which is an open source OS.
But iMessage doesn't do anything Android texting apps don't do already. The problem with Android I guess is everyone uses different apps which can break things. For example, e2e encryption won't work on different texting apps (AFAIK).
I actually prefer Android and always have because I like open source. Apple has always locked their shite down and closed the code for review. This is despite their OS's being built on FreeBSD, which is an open source OS.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 4:34 pm to efrad
quote:there is a compatibility issue because of the pretentiousness of their phone manufacturer. and that boils down to someone having a different phone... were you any good at connecting the dots?
No, it's because of the incompatibility problem, not the phone model owned.
quote:i agree...
hese people are annoyed by the compatibility issues created by Apple restricting the distribution of their iMessage clients.
quote:you are the one crying about low resolution farm videos because apple wont implement RCS into imessage.. Take it out on them and not the guy who has an android phone. gosh...
Stop being a drama queen.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 5:36 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
there is a compatibility issue because of the pretentiousness of their phone manufacturer. and that boils down to someone having a different phone... were you any good at connecting the dots?
You called them appletards and said "just because he has a different phone than him," (just because, idiom: for the simple or single reason that) as in there is no further reason beyond that, don't try to walk it back now. You intentionally phrased it that way to be dramatic and suggest that iPhone users eject Android users for no other reason than owning a different phone.
The end users just want the least headache and Apple is purposefully and intentionally making it a headache to be in a group chat with Android users who don't have a native iMessage client.
quote:
you are the one crying about low resolution farm videos because apple wont implement RCS into imessage..
AlxTgr asked for an explanation of what the problem was for iMessage users and I described it, though as I said before, I am on Android.
quote:
because apple wont implement RCS into imessage.. Take it out on them
I have put the blame on Apple in every single post I've made in this thread. You've chosen to ignore that for some reason.
quote:
and not the guy who has an android phone. gosh...
0/3 on reading comprehension. I use iMessage on a Pixel 6 phone, which as you should know, is an Android phone, and nothing I've suggested here puts the blame on Android users. This is intentionally imposed by Apple.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 5:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Can someone explain to me why Apple values iMessage so much?
I can tell you why it’s important to me and why I switched to Apple from Android. I used to conduct the majority of my business with my customers through email. So sending files, pictures, and videos was not an issue from my Android phone. Years ago the communication shifted to text and my customers expect to get sent the same files, pictures, etc. through text. iMessage is able to do this seamlessly through text so it makes communication easier on my end.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 5:41 pm to j1897
quote:So?
You can't react, edit, delete, sticker, basically ANY iMessage feature other than type and send, without it shitting on itself.
quote:frick you.
I don't believe you.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 5:46 pm to AlxTgr
For those questioning the good of iMessage it is how seamless it integrates with all of their products. You can message on a iphone, ipad, macbook or even an old ipod and it just works seamlessly. Every messaging app I have tried to read and reply to text messages on my PC or Samsung Tablet SUCKS. In a lab environment where I can't have a phone having iMessage on a computer would be great for me.
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