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SmartThings ending free API

Posted on 11/6/26 at 6:40 am
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3880 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 6:40 am
In case you need another reason not to buy anything from big tech, ever.

Welcome to EaaS. Everything as a Service. Want to communicate with “your own” device outside of our app? That’ll be $60/yr.

If bootloader is locked, you don’t own it. It’s literally that simple.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36844 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 6:43 am to
Samsung's gotta pay for that cloud service somehow.
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3880 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 6:47 am to
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Samsung's gotta pay for that cloud service somehow.


God forbid a $100 device comes with $0.60 worth of service over a decade.

Esp32 coordinator is $4 and doesn’t need big tech or a dedicated spy app with bi-monthly terms and conditions downgrades just to flip a switch. Problem solved.
This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 6:58 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
95330 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 7:44 am to
this board is a better place with you on it
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3880 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 8:09 am to
Am I crazy? I’m not a privacy nut. I have a few Google TV boxes. Used nest until Google killed it. I’m just sick of locked down shite and getting notice almost every day saying that something I own will now have less functionality while harvesting more of my information.

I feel like I should invent a toothbrush that charges you by the minute. Then charges you double for not using it enough. This is the kind of crap that seems to be selling.
This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 10:09 am
Posted by Vrai
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
4049 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 9:01 am to
I'm pissed about it. My home assistant pi is in my detached office connected to my lan via POE HaT, but I had an old smartthings hub inside on wifi that I was using for my zwave shelly's.
I can move them all over to my pi but I'll need to move it inside, take of the hat and move to wifi, set up the zwave antenna, remove and re-add all the devices.
Just a pain in the arse
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19614 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:23 am to
They have POE Zwave/zigbee coordinators that don't have to be directly connected to the HA host.

You can also migrate from coordinator to coordinator, I did it recently migrating from my Sonoff USB coordinator to a POE one. Painless and easy
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19614 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:27 am to
Outside of my Tuya devices, which I control locally with Tuya Local, I just have some TP Link Kasa smart switches since they were so cheap. The second they yoink that free API to HA, I'm moving back to dumb switches with Shelly's behind them
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
95330 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:53 am to
You don't have to convince me. I'm down to one alexa smart speaker and if I ever finish this project I'll have local voice going and will never need it again.

Right now we use it to turn a light on occasionally or change the station on Sonos. No need to give up your privacy for that.
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13894 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:00 am to
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Vrai


Personnaly, I would take this opportunity to upgrade your core system to something more powerful than a Pi.
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3880 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 2:30 pm to
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I'm down to one alexa smart speaker


I’m not mad at Alexa. We have a studio and the last premium along with an alarm clock and then a show in the kitchen.

I also have the original and while it isn’t worth using, at least it isn’t planned obsolescence. It’s simply too weak to keep up with today’s common features like audio timing. It’s 60% hacked but not worth modifying. Sharp contrast to the Nest thermostat that was shut off despite being perfectly fine for its function and then discovered that it was still spying on you despite being “disabled.”

Original Echo isn’t even shut off, you just have to call it something else to activate it normally and then it simply doesn’t keep up very well. That’s how a product should die, not because somebody just killed it. Honestly if you had the original echo by itself and not part of a group, it might be fine.
This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 2:34 pm
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2412 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 3:07 pm to
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I feel like I should invent a toothbrush that charges you by the minute. Then charges you double for not using it enough. This is the kind of crap that seems to be selling.


Well, Phillips/Sonicare does have a RFID chip in their toothbrush heads. They are already tracking usage

Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
18320 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:01 pm to
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Phillips/Sonicare does have a RFID chip in their toothbrush heads

The cheap Chinese head replacements don't!
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