RAM timings

These are my current RAM timings:



I have 1.5v pouring through a high end B-Die kit that I've tuned to within an inch of its life. So when I say what I'm about to say with utter sincerity, you should give it heed:

Leave. Your RAM. The frick. Alone.

You will spend hours fighting ghosts in the machine that will make you want to make blood sacrifices to the Old Gods. Timings that will work one second won't work the next. You will clear your CMOS over, and over, and over again. And the result? The tiniest of improvements that would be dwarfed by upgrading, or even tuning, basically anything else.

Now, if you enjoy the process? By all means, join in on the insanity. But if your goal is to meaningfully improve performance and you just want to struggle through it? Yeah, just don't

ETA: Technically it's also tuned to within an inch of my CPU's life. My kit can actually handle 4000/14, but an fclock of 2000 starts throwing WHEA errors

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Perhaps I will upgrade the sticks.

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Now that I would support

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I've heard reducing them can improve performance and get rid of some stuttering in games.

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Also, to revisit this, as it's a subject I find most tech reviewers don't spend enough time on: you really, really don't want to be CPU bound when gaming. Sure, they'll tell you that because they say it's wasting money on your GPU, which is true. But in my experience, every game I've ever been CPU bound in has had terrible micro stuttering. I think it's just the nature of CPUs that they don't task switch as well as GPUs do, so they hitch more frequently. If you find yourself in that situation, paradoxically, you might improve the "feel" of the game performance if you increase the graphics settings to the point that you're GPU limited again.

I'm on AMD Expo 30-38-38-96 6000MHz at 1.35v.

DDR5.

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30-38-38-96

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Why are the DDR5 timings like this as opposed to the lower numbers?

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Why are the DDR5 timings like this as opposed to the lower numbers?

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Happens every generation. Speed goes up, but timings have to significantly loosen to be stable enough to run. As the generation matures, timings will come down. They won’t ever be as low as the previous generation, but they will close the gap. That’s part of why it’s generally not a great idea to spend a lot of money on RAM at the start of a new generation. Just buy a workable kit to start and then invest in a good kit down the road. What will release a couple of years in will generally blow those early sticks out of the water.

lol! I remember trying to overclock my 266mhz sticks and see if I could knock down to 1T timing and 2-2-2 latency!

Possibly, DDR6 lands next year for enterprise and not too long after for consumer. Much smaller life span.

Seeing 14000MHz for DDR6 too.

Yeah I don't count the 2 weeks left in Dec so next year is 2025.

I'm looking at upgrading the PC in the near future. CPU and RAM are my 2 biggest needs. Naturally, of course, the MOBO will need an upgrade to LGA1700.

I'm at a crossroads. Should I find an LGA1700 DDR4 and buy a higher end RAM kit or just go with a DDR5 board and buy some middle of the road kit for now? Trying not to break the bank.