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Opinions and/or experiences with VPNs
Posted on 2/22/21 at 11:45 am
Posted on 2/22/21 at 11:45 am
Anyone use or know anything about the below VPNs?
Keepsolid VPN $60 lifetime subscription
BelkaVPN $40 lifetime subscription
YoData VPN $18 lifetime subscription
Fastest VPN $20 lifetime subscription
Keepsolid VPN $60 lifetime subscription
BelkaVPN $40 lifetime subscription
YoData VPN $18 lifetime subscription
Fastest VPN $20 lifetime subscription
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 11:46 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I only know that most of them are selling your information to the highest bidder.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 12:36 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
What kind of illegal stuff do you want a VPN for?
Posted on 2/22/21 at 12:46 pm to BeepNode
This thinking is so boomerish and outdated. VPNs also do things like protect online data from companies using it for profit. It literally makes you a user again instead of a PRODUCT. VPNs also have built in ad blocking, malware blocking, and tracking blockers( not all just premium ones offering these features).
Posted on 2/22/21 at 12:48 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Look into Mullvad. You don't put any personal information in to register. As anonymous as you're going to get.
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:03 pm to Archer
+1 for Mullvad. I switched to them after PIA got bought out
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:11 pm to viv1d
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VPNs also do things like protect online data from companies using it for profit. It literally makes you a user again instead of a PRODUCT.
No. They can track you across multiple IPs. My phone IP changes all the time. All the layer 7 bits are still there. You’re basically just hiding from your ISP and masking your location from streaming sites. You’re hosed as soon as you log into Google or Facebook.
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Ad blocking
This is DNS.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:44 pm to viv1d
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VPNs also do things like protect online data from companies using it for profit. It literally makes you a user again instead of a PRODUCT.
Not quite...
The only thing you can definitely be sure of is that the VPN provider you are using has access to all of your traffic when connected to the VPN.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:27 pm to Archer
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Look into Mullvad. You don't put any personal information in to register. As anonymous as you're going to get.
They (the VPN) knows your IP address and knows everything you view over the net. They sell this info and it is just as uniquely identifiable as the other means.
The biggest selling point is that if your VPN is located in a country without a cooperation deal with the USA govt, they won't be required to hand over the information to the authorities. They still sell all that data to private companies, though.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:36 pm to notsince98
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They (the VPN) knows your IP address and knows everything you view over the net. They sell this info and it is just as uniquely identifiable as the other means.
The biggest selling point is that if your VPN is located in a country without a cooperation deal with the USA govt, they won't be required to hand over the information to the authorities. They still sell all that data to private companies, though.
What kind of things are people doing that they need a VPN? Is it mainly for pirating music or something? I really don't know.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:52 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
I would be suspect of lifetime subscriptions. I got a 3 year deal on AirVPN and have been very happy with it so far.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 7:09 pm to kywildcatfanone
They are useful when location needs to be masked or you want to get blocked traffic through firewalls. They are also nice to secure your data when connected to unsecured wifi hotspots.
I made my own vpn on my home server that I used to stream music through my work firewall when they blocked prime music, pandora, spotify, etc. My data was encrypted to my house and then sent out to the internet. Worked great.
Now that I work from home I shut it down.
I made my own vpn on my home server that I used to stream music through my work firewall when they blocked prime music, pandora, spotify, etc. My data was encrypted to my house and then sent out to the internet. Worked great.
Now that I work from home I shut it down.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 8:45 pm to notsince98
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They are also nice to secure your data when connected to unsecured wifi hotspots.
I'll bite.
How so? The websites you visit should be using TLS and that's end-to-end. You must have VPN not set as your gateway for long enough to A) connect to the captive portal and B) connect to the VPN itself.
I mean, it can help with some local LAN stuff if you dont have a firewall but I have firewall on mine that does a popup to approve/deny any connections to hosts/ports that were not previously allowed.
I feel like these consumer VPNs are giving people a false senes of security. I don't trust them to have my data more than I trust Cox.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 10:18 pm to BeepNode
you can go down a rabbit hole on this but not everything is transferred HTTPS. there is a lot of data packets that can be copied and tampered with later and adding the VPN encryption layer on unencrypted wifi traffic provides more protection.
Even with TLS, they can see what sites you are visiting by pulling packet info. VPN hides everything over the wifi stream.
and i will reiterate, i would not use a subscription VPN. I would only ever use my own.
Even with TLS, they can see what sites you are visiting by pulling packet info. VPN hides everything over the wifi stream.
and i will reiterate, i would not use a subscription VPN. I would only ever use my own.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 2/23/21 at 7:35 am to notsince98
For the users that don't understand, the data is encrypted from your device to the VPN endpoint, but after that, it is back to normal, so the VPN company can see all your data. Of course if you are on a https site, then the data is still encrypted, but like others said there is other packets and info that can be seen.
It is only good for masking your location. As far as public WiFi, having your own VPN or just connecting to your office VPN is good layer of security (if your not surfing porn).
It is only good for masking your location. As far as public WiFi, having your own VPN or just connecting to your office VPN is good layer of security (if your not surfing porn).
Posted on 2/23/21 at 8:19 am to gpburdell
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+1 for Mullvad. I switched to them after PIA got bought out
Didn't know this and have been with them since '16. Time to check out the competitors
Posted on 2/24/21 at 4:57 pm to notsince98
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I would only ever use my own.
You mean like something native to Windows? Or something on your router?
Posted on 2/24/21 at 5:36 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:Some (most?) routers have a built in VPN server that you can connect to from somewhere else on the internet, as long as you know how to reach it (usually accomplished with dynamic dns services).
You mean like something native to Windows? Or something on your router?
Posted on 2/24/21 at 6:15 pm to Korkstand
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Korkstand
Thanks.
Looking at my Orbi now, and it looks like you can install Openvpn on the router and then download for other devices including phones and computers. So, if you put it on the router by default is it securing all devices on the local network? Does it slow the network down much? I've not used one before and didn't realize I had one at my fingertips.
Posted on 2/24/21 at 7:17 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:Depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Usually a router can operate as either a VPN server or client.
So, if you put it on the router by default is it securing all devices on the local network?
If you want to hide your traffic from your ISP, you would configure your router as a VPN client and connect it to a VPN server (usually paid for). This would tunnel your home network traffic through the VPN.
If you are away from home and would like to hide your traffic from whatever network you are currently using (or, you know, use a VPN as a VPN and securely access resources on your home network), you would configure your home router's VPN server. Then you would connect to your router/server from wherever you are.
quote:Using a VPN adds one or more "hops" to whatever you are accessing, so it can't really be faster. It's an extra potential bottleneck.
Does it slow the network down much?
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