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re: New home Ethernet wiring
Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:13 pm to shawnlsu
Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:13 pm to shawnlsu
quote:Surely you have a lot of "free" cat6 laying around, too. Why did you choose the 6A if it costs so much more time and money to install? You could have used it on a future job.
Free cable is the only reason
Material cost is only about 10% of the cost of your average drop, correct? If there was no advantage, I think I would still have chosen cat6 and had a cheaper hand help me run it.
Again, NOT trying to bust your balls here. I wouldn't consider myself a pro by any means, but as I mentioned I run some cable. Almost always cat6, but I have been considering using 6A when the walls are open and the added size/stiffness isn't so much of an issue.
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 6:31 pm to Korkstand
Actually at the time, I didn't have much cat6 laying around. We run Cat6A for almost everything in the schools now, so I have more of that on hand usually. Commercial projects are still mostly Cat6, but I don't keep except what I need on hand.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 8:59 am to Simon Gruber
Coax is also handy to run with cat6 or whatever. Good coax is going to have essentially an unlimited lifespan and be fully upgradeable. They were doing 10Gbps synchronous on coax in data centers before it was common on category ethernet cable.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:38 am to notsince98
I find this whole thread to be pretty amusing. I'm curious...what are you guys doing on your personal networks that take anything more than 1Gb or really anything over 500Mb that requires wired connections? The one use case I DO understand is installing anything that is POE. Keep in mind you'll need a POE switch when doing this... Other than that, pretty much everything is good with wireless mesh these days. Just don't cheap out on the lower end wireless mesh networks. I personally installed an Orbi setup in my 3800sqft house. I have 5 people in my house(consuming a lot of data) and have never had issues. Single main router/wap on my first floor and 2 remote waps on each end of the house on the second floor. The specific WAPs i'm using have 4 wired ethernet ports on the back AND they have local power.
To each their own but personally I don't see the advantage of wiring a house anymore with the exception of wanting to make use of POE devices....and then I'd only install it to very specific locations. I helped a buddy of mine do what you're talking about when he built his house. He ended up only terminating and using like 3 of the 40ish cables we ran.
To each their own but personally I don't see the advantage of wiring a house anymore with the exception of wanting to make use of POE devices....and then I'd only install it to very specific locations. I helped a buddy of mine do what you're talking about when he built his house. He ended up only terminating and using like 3 of the 40ish cables we ran.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:01 pm to kennypowers
I have made drops in my house because I still have some desktops: 1 is my gaming/tinkering computer, 1 is a HTPC, and 1 is my NVR and DVR.
Additionally I've connected our 2 smart TVs to hardwire due to latency with wifi. If the latency is too high, my home DVR system won't allow me to watch encrypted TV.
I don't run mesh Wifi, I use wired APs.
If something in my house has an ethernet port and it's not mobile, it gets hardwired. It's not always about speed, but also the guaranteed uptime from a hardwire connection that wifi can't do.
Additionally I've connected our 2 smart TVs to hardwire due to latency with wifi. If the latency is too high, my home DVR system won't allow me to watch encrypted TV.
I don't run mesh Wifi, I use wired APs.
If something in my house has an ethernet port and it's not mobile, it gets hardwired. It's not always about speed, but also the guaranteed uptime from a hardwire connection that wifi can't do.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:01 pm to kennypowers
My neighborhood is wifi polluted so wifi is practically useless where I am. If I need gigabit for file transfers or blu-ray streaming I need a wired connection.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 6/22/21 at 12:24 pm to kennypowers
quote:I mean I guess it might be amusing if all you do or ever will do is dick around on the internet and stream some video. If you are satisfied with wifi, I wouldn't expect you to post on a tech board asking about wiring your home. But if someone does ask about it, then I have to assume they have a need or want for it.
I find this whole thread to be pretty amusing. I'm curious...what are you guys doing on your personal networks that take anything more than 1Gb or really anything over 500Mb that requires wired connections?
If you work with any kind of media then you will benefit from a NAS, and if you have a NAS then you will benefit from 10gbit vs 1gbit. Even for amateur photographers, musicians, "youtubers", etc it makes a world of difference. When you're moving around gigabytes of data, the max 125MB/s of gigabit is kind of slow.
Several ISPs already offer 2gbit service.
quote:Five people browsing and streaming is really not a lot of data. It wasn't a lot for wifi tech from a decade ago. That's actually kind of the bare minimum amount of usage that a home network should handle. You'll probably be good for the foreseeable future.
I have 5 people in my house(consuming a lot of data) and have never had issues.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 2:09 pm to kennypowers
i find it amusing that people are really balking at the idea of wiring the house. Cat 6 and coax are cheap as frick to have run. why would you not, should be the question.
In my case I have found even with high quality Wired APs that having a wired connection is much faster, plus you dont get dropped and have to reconnect which is common with many TVs and streaming services.
I much much prefer hard wired connections and find them to be much more stable. Not to mention I would much rather run POE APs for the look when mounted on the ceiling.
In my case I have found even with high quality Wired APs that having a wired connection is much faster, plus you dont get dropped and have to reconnect which is common with many TVs and streaming services.
I much much prefer hard wired connections and find them to be much more stable. Not to mention I would much rather run POE APs for the look when mounted on the ceiling.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 3:57 pm to Simon Gruber
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I do have a media closet that will be where all the cables terminate and where the internet modem will be placed. I’m still undecided how much I want to do in this regard. I was thinking a simple switch for now with a good mesh system. No racks or servers at this time.
I have a media closet. It's too small for my need, but I put a wall mount cabinet around it, and it contains everything I have. Gateway, Mesh router, and switch. I leave a door open for air flow, and it's inside another closet. I use the other cabinet spaces for other storage. Seems to be all I need.
My only regret was the electrician who ran everything put this closet on an interior wall, so running more cable isn't really an option for me.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 4:04 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:
electrician who ran everything put this closet on an interior wall
Most electricians know little to nothing about low voltage cabling and ventilation requirements regarding equipment. They think that "wire is wire".
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:53 pm to lsu777
quote:
i find it amusing that people are really balking at the idea of wiring the house. Cat 6 and coax are cheap as frick to have run. why would you not, should be the question.
In my case I have found even with high quality Wired APs that having a wired connection is much faster, plus you dont get dropped and have to reconnect which is common with many TVs and streaming services.
I much much prefer hard wired connections and find them to be much more stable. Not to mention I would much rather run POE APs for the look when mounted on the ceiling.
:kige:
I'm very close to starting a new build and I'm definitely running CAT6 to most rooms and for POE cameras. I've never had open walls to work with so I'm excited
Great thread guys
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 10:56 pm
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