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New construction - run coax?

Posted on 2/9/19 at 12:18 pm
Posted by ManOnDaRun
Houston
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 12:18 pm
Planning to do the pre-wire myself on new construction. Currently planning all the routing. Am doing two cat 6 to every bedroom and kitchen. Four cat 6 to living room and game room. But my question is, is there any reason at all to run coax to any of the rooms? I understand I need coax coming into the house for internet, but I can’t seem to think of any reason to run it to all the other rooms. Can someone with more knowledge than me think of any reason to run coax?
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 12:31 pm to
Of air antenna and cable boxes
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 12:41 pm to
I assume this means you have no plans to use cable/satellite for TV? Even if you don't now, you might in the future and then it will be a bigger pain in the arse.

I know DirecTv can do wireless on the boxes but wired is better.

You should consider running cables for wifi access points if you want to mount one in a hallway, ceiling etc. In my new home last year, I went with the approach of installing small in-wall APs in several rooms.

Also don't forget surveillance cameras. Alot of cameras can be powered by ethernet.

This post was edited on 2/9/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted by ManOnDaRun
Houston
Member since Sep 2004
498 posts
Posted on 2/9/19 at 12:44 pm to
Right now I have Comcast with wireless boxes. I think nowadays the wireless boxes are a decent choice, however haven’t done wired boxes for ease of transferring boxes around without running cables. Do the wired boxes require coax? I figured they would just need cat 6, but I could be wrong.

Also, am doing the cameras, but those are just cat 6. For access points, I have the Orbi setup in my current house. That just plugs into the power outlet. I could just add another one of those if needed, correct?
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 12:48 pm to
Coax is cheap. If your walls are open I’d run it.
Posted by ManOnDaRun
Houston
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 12:52 pm to
Thanks. I know its cheap and probably better to do it now than regret later, but is there something I’m missing that I may need it for down the road? I just can’t think of any reason I’d actually need it. Like phone connections. I know I’ll never need those, but coax I’m a little unsure of.
Posted by gpburdell
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 12:57 pm to
I would take multiple wired access points over mesh any day.

Since you're already invested in Orbi then it's fine. If it ever dies then look into installing APs.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 12:58 pm to
I just ran coax to all my TVs form an HD antenna in the attic. Would have been nice if the wires were already in the walls.

I know here Cox cable boxes still need coax ran to them too.
Posted by ManOnDaRun
Houston
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 1:08 pm to
Thanks. Guess it doesn’t hurt to just run it now. Any recommendations on wireless access points or which cat 6 to get? Not familiar with the access points since I’ve gone Orbi already and I found 1000 feet of shielded cat 6 on new egg for like $100. I assume that would be sufficient?
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 2:34 pm to
I'm a big fan of Monoprice cables (CAT, hdmi, etc).

When I built my new house, I upgraded all my network (router, switch, access points) to Ubiquiti Unifi gear. Since I had ethernet to almost every room I went with their in-wall units which are pretty slick.

FYI, UBiquiti is "prosumer" gear. It's better than consumer retail stuff but not quite up to corporate enterprise level. When I say better, I don't necessarily mean faster, but more stable and consistent. My router goes months without needing a reset and that's only because I updated the firmware.


Posted by Brian Wilson
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 3:09 pm to
I would just incase. It would be a bitch to deal with after the fact.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

know DirecTv can do wireless on the boxes but wired is better.


Att hasn’t set an official timeline but they are phasing out satellite for directv
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

Att hasn’t set an official timeline but they are phasing out satellite for directv


They will dump uverse before Directv.

I have to imagine if they phase out Directv that we are talking in 10-15 yrs just because of the sheer volume of customers.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 6:10 pm to
They aren’t getting rid of Direct TV just phasing out satellite for delivery of the service.
Posted by DoctorTechnical
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 6:59 pm to
Beyond all of the previous suggestions, you might even consider a nice conduit / pull-box run for a few central spots: media center, office, wiring closet.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

They aren’t getting rid of Direct TV just phasing out satellite for delivery of the service.


Exactly what I said. They will be going app based, like most everyone.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 8:40 pm to
There is absolutely no reason to run shielded Cat6. Regular in wall rated is fine.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18012 posts
Posted on 2/9/19 at 9:00 pm to
Yes. Coax is a great medium and useful.

I wouldn't run multiple Ethernet to rooms unless they were in different locations within the same room.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18012 posts
Posted on 2/9/19 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

They will dump uverse before Directv.

I have to imagine if they phase out Directv that we are talking in 10-15 yrs just because of the sheer volume of customers.


Att is no longer developing DirecTV or uverse. Att is moving to an IPTV box that works over the internet and has a 5g chip built in.

Expect a rollout within a year or two. It is already in beta testing.
Posted by jennyjones
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

For access points, I have the Orbi setup in my current house. That just plugs into the power outlet. I could just add another one of those if needed, correct?


Yes, you can always add orbi satellites

It is also now an option to run a etherent wired backhaul between orbi units. That may help depending on how your new house is layed out
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