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Must haves for smart home?

Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:53 pm
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:53 pm
Which products does the Tech Board recommend for a house in remodeling?

Thanks in advance!
Posted by Cypdog
Member since Jan 2014
832 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 11:13 pm to
Also interested. House is nearing completion post Harvey. I am going to self install smart switches. Going to put in ring doorbell, nest thermostat and some nest indoor cameras to spy on my kids when they sneak downstairs. Any advice is welcome.
Posted by cajunsaint
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
574 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 11:14 pm to
Was just about to post this same question. Been researching all afternoon. Will be following.
Posted by ZoneLiftGMC
Member since Oct 2010
869 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 11:35 pm to
Really long answers here. If you are still at studs I'd pull cat6 everywhere feesible. Multiple runs per room and everywhere you want an external camera.

As for other components, I'd go with GE zWave switches everywhere. Unless you plan to invest hundreds if not thousands in philips hue.

I'd also look into smart security systems.

I heavily invested in nest and it has been soild, but if you start from scratch PoE can be more cost effective.
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 11:36 pm
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10694 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 5:38 am to
I’m probably not doing much electrical work on the house. But I am interested in a doorbell, lock, and lighting
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78075 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:18 am to
I'd go with lutron over ge for lighting. Much better product, similar price.

As for doorbells and alarms, cameras, etc it's turning into a 2 man race between Google and Amazon.

There may be more buzz on other products for now but if you're looking for long term stability you want a company that's going to have your back down the road.

Also hue is the king of color lighting.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 10:20 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:11 am to
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As for doorbells and alarms, cameras, etc it's turning into a 2 man race between Google and Amazon.

There may be more buzz on other products for now but if you're looking for long term stability you want a company that's going to have your back down the road.

I am strongly in the camp that we need an open option for these things. The tinkerer/maker community is extremely strong, so there are already DIY options for anything you can think of, but I haven't seen anyone working on open projects that anyone can use. We need cameras and video doorbells built around RPi or similar, configurable to bring your own storage/cloud or be able to use commercial offerings. We can do this now, but it needs to be refined for the masses. The same goes for all the other IoT gadgets.


I've seen too many of these companies go under and leave their customers with useless products. Even Google has a bad habit of killing off products. It all needs to be open.. hardware, software, and protocols. I'm not going to depend on any company to keep my home running, nor am I going to give any company that much control over my life.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18234 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:13 am to
I plan on building some PoE DYI cameras when I move into my next house. Looks to be about $50 per camera with the RPi included.

Going to make 3 or 4 of them and hook them up to my servers
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 11:13 am
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33893 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:31 am to
quote:

I plan on building some PoE DYI cameras when I move into my next house. Looks to be about $50 per camera with the RPi included.

Going to make 3 or 4 of them and hook them up to my servers


I'd definitely be interested in something like this to add a few more cameras to my system. I'm mostly interested in the physical aspects of fitting the hardware into a nice, clean housing.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:40 am to
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I plan on building some PoE DYI cameras when I move into my next house. Looks to be about $50 per camera with the RPi included.
I've looked into this a LOT. $50 isn't going to happen with the regular sized Pi. You might be able to keep it that cheap with a Zero, but then you have to solve the issue of the Zero doesn't have the E for PoE.

The new Pis are PoE "ready", but they'll still need more hardware to actually provide the power.

The official Pi camera module is like $25 itself, so just the Pi and camera put you over $50, and you still need the PoE hardware, etc. Then if you want day/night, neither the standard camera nor the noir is going to work.


You need a camera with an IR cut filter. I found some Pi cams with IR cut filter and IR LEDs on Ali for like $13. I also have a $10 PoE splitter, which brings my current total to right around $60 for a day/night PoE camera based on RPi, but I haven't even started building a watertight case yet. I also doubt these LEDs will be bright enough to give much range outdoors, so I will likely have to go bigger on the IR LED array and hope I can keep the power consumption within PoE limits. Oh, and I have to figure out how to power the LEDs from my splitter so the Pi doesn't have to drive them.

I need help.
Posted by SnoopALoop
Nashville
Member since Apr 2014
4394 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:56 am to
I'll start out and say you should start off with a strong and reliable mesh router setup.

Amplifi HD or Google WiFi

Nest Cam IQ Indoor/Outdoor
Couple of Google Home devices
LIFX LED bulbs/strips
TP-Link mini smart plugs
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33893 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

I need help.


Well....once y'all figure all that shite out ( ) I'm down for going in on a bulk parts order to help get the price down.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

am strongly in the camp that we need an open option for these things


Doorbird, LTS, Hikvision all have doorbell cameras that you can pull a steam off and don’t have to rely on a cloud.
Posted by Cowbells
USA
Member since Aug 2012
538 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 12:32 pm to
Surprised that no one has mentioned smart water leak sensors. IMO, these are the one of the most valuable smart devices out there. Place the leak sensors placed under your sinks, near the water heater, behind toilets, under washing machine & dishwasher, etc. Add a smart valve to your main water line which automatically shuts whenever your senors trip and these could potentially save you thousands of dollars.

I have a bunch of Samsung leak sensors but my main water line is outside the house. I'm still figuring a way to install a smart valve.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Doorbird, LTS, Hikvision all have doorbell cameras that you can pull a steam off and don’t have to rely on a cloud.
Then what do you do with it? You can set up motion detection to alert you and view a live stream or recordings, but what about 2-way audio? Is that open to integration with arbitrary systems?
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 1:17 pm to
Plug it into a local DVR/NVR and/or control system.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 1:20 pm to
Yeah I get that you can view/record the video streams, but can you use 2-way audio without using their proprietary cloud services?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78075 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 1:20 pm to
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I've seen too many of these companies go under and leave their customers with useless products.


didnt nest even kill a smart hub they were developing? red or something like that? i agree that the track record on multiuse zwave/zigbee hubs is abysmal.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66790 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 1:37 pm to
kind of on the same note: anyone owned/purchased a Rachio sprinkler system? (smart sprinkler system; alexa enabled)


my irritrol just doesn't seem to follow my timing settings, no matter how many times i reset and re-program it. so i end up manually running a zone at a time depending on the time of day and who's using what part of the yard. I really want the ability to control it from my phone.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 1:42 pm to
You would need to use their app or a 3rd party app.
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