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Looks like Google will soon force two-factor authentication on users
Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:10 pm
What's your take on this ? A good thing or just another way for Google to get their hooks deeper into your business or both ?
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:12 pm to captron
How does 2FA get Google's hooks deeper in you?
Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:15 pm to Vrai
Would think it needs to send a PIN to a different email address, a cell phone, a home phone etc.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:23 pm to captron
There's a ton to not like Google over, but I don't think this is one of them. More people need to use 2FA
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:04 am to captron
It's to make the phone even more of an anchor/leash. Of course, for most folks that won't be that big of a change.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:40 am to Ace Midnight
One of my clients has gone to this. Frikin hate it. What are they afraid of? Someone finding out what I think a claim is worth?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:07 am to AlxTgr
You don't see the benefit of multi-factor authentication?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:39 am to Vrai
2FA in itself is great. Never thought I would miss carrying 3 or 4 RSA tokens on my keyring/badge lanyard, etc....however tying them to apps on a mobile phone is a pain. I have to keep Google Auth, 2 RSA tokens, and Microsoft Auth on my phone.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:40 am to Vrai
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More people need to use 2FA
I think every company should offer 2FA. Looking at you Netflix.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:57 am to Vrai
quote:In general, or for this purpose?
You don't see the benefit of multi-factor authentication?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:02 am to captron
For the average person, their gmail account is the key to everything else in their lives, because it's their password recovery email address. Google adding two factor makes perfect sense.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:11 am to captron
I welcome the change.
While a pain in the butt, MFA is huge for peace of mind. I recently had to explain to my mother why this is important and she needs to set it up for her banking logins. She was disgruntled but did it.
While a pain in the butt, MFA is huge for peace of mind. I recently had to explain to my mother why this is important and she needs to set it up for her banking logins. She was disgruntled but did it.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 11:57 am to ibldprplgld
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:15 pm to ibldprplgld
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While a pain in the butt, MFA is huge for peace of mind.
I really don't think it has to be a pain in the butt. I've been using a YubiKey for 10 years, first with LastPass, and then a few years ago I got a YubiKey NEO, which has FIDO support for Google and NFC for use with my phone. I still use the original YubiKey I bought in 2011 as well. These things are super rugged.
For someone who doesn't use 2FA at all right now, I would recommend getting Yubico's cheaper "Security Key NFC" (the price shows $24.50 for me):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07M8YBWQZ/
It supports FIDO and FIDO2. You don't have to understand what the acronyms mean, just that it's the emerging standard for 2FA. You can use this Security Key with Google, Microsoft, Dropbox, and any other service that supports FIDO or FIDO2. This key also has NFC so you can use it on your phone (I assume most phones have NFC?).
If you happen to use LastPass, then you should get the full YubiKey which includes the original OTP functionality that LastPass uses. It comes in various form factors (USB-A, USB-C, and in a tiny form to keep plugged into your laptop indefinitely).
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:21 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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I really don't think it has to be a pain in the butt. I've been using a YubiKey for 10 years,
Interesting. Will check it out.
May be wrong but sending a PIN to your phone seems to add security in one way but creates a whole new "surface" to be exploited.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:32 pm to captron
Using text messages (SMS) for 2FA is not secure, for the reason you pointed out.
I use both Google Authenticator and Microsoft Authenticator as well for various reasons, but I find them confusing to set up. I think a hardware key is the easiest to use for most people.
Here are a couple of helpful articles:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/yubikey-hands-on-hardware-based-2fa-is-more-secure-but-watch-out-for-these-gotchas/
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/2fa-right-way,news-29824.html
I use both Google Authenticator and Microsoft Authenticator as well for various reasons, but I find them confusing to set up. I think a hardware key is the easiest to use for most people.
Here are a couple of helpful articles:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/yubikey-hands-on-hardware-based-2fa-is-more-secure-but-watch-out-for-these-gotchas/
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/2fa-right-way,news-29824.html
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 5/18/21 at 12:48 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
Thanks, Haven't really followed the security piece of online banking etc. as much as I should have.
Will look into a Yubikey or device like it.
Will look into a Yubikey or device like it.
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