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Looking at new smart TVs and it's depressing.

Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:32 am
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:32 am
Do they all run ads now and track you? It seems like every story is about how to change settings to opt out of some of the tracking but at the end of the day you're really only getting the illusion of control.

I'm guessing some smart people (kork?) Oh this board have figured out a way to block this at the router or something. I would love to hear from anyone who is successfully blocking these intrusive analytics.

Is there any TV to avoid? I thought TCL with Roku built in might be a good choice but hell.. That seems like the worst of the bunch with ads you can't turn off.

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TCL uses the Roku TV system, which is also used in sets made by Hisense, Hitachi, Insignia, Philips, RCA, and Sharp. ... "Opting out of ACR does not affect collection of information about the use of Roku streaming channels." Under Advertising, you can also choose to limit ad tracking.


There's a simple reason your new smart TV was so affordable: It's collecting and selling your data, and serving you ads
Posted by ellunchboxo
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:20 am to
I have a Sony Android TV and it has no ads.

I might have turned all that stuff off when I got it but I don’t remember.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:37 am to
i go back and forth on this. i gave up in the late 00s about being tracked, but in this case, i don't really need a smart TV so i look for options without it
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:40 am to
Your cable providers/internet providers already track you anyway
Posted by h0bnail
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:52 am to
Don't connect the TV to internet. Use the streaming device of your choice.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 7:14 am to
yeah it's impossible to avoid it unless you go off the grid, basically. at least with a TV it's in a centralized location

it's not like streaming apps you'd use on the "smart" part don't already track your viewing anyway (i mean if you just use them through another device). this is just one more company that gets to view the data. i guess it's a form of democratization, if you will.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:04 am to
I never set up the wifi
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:11 am to
Pretty much what I did, not sure how it affects tracking but I find the method offers a much smoother experience.

Buy tv: put it online to update firmware

Take tv offline: use Nvidia shield box on every tv

Keeps each interface and menu operating the same plus it's much faster and stable than what any of the TV's offer.

Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:27 am to
I was looking at the tcl 6 series because it already has a Roku built in but it looks like an adware infested version.
Posted by LEASTBAY
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:27 am to
I don't see any ads on my TCL 6 series.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:28 am to
Really? I probably read too much online. So it doesn't try to sell you Fandango tickets whenever you try to do something?

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This is a great television, but you could easily miss one fundamental feature: it is cheap because it is subsidized by ads. Unremovable Fandango promotions. Rotating adverts for subscription channels, TV events, political shows...all sit next to your apps/input selection menu.

I use it for PS4 Pro and Netflix/Hulu/HBO Go.
Great TV...really nice tech.
But I hate the ads.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 8:34 am
Posted by BallsEleven
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:49 am to
You bought a shield for every tv?
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:55 am to
Think I saw that thing for less than 500 bucks this past weekend. (65")
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6640 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:19 am to
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I don't see any ads on my TCL 6 series.



Neither do I. I did what was mentioned in this thread already. Connect to the internet for the updates then take it off the network and only use PS4 / FireTV for everything. No ads
Posted by LSUdoubleE
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:39 am to
Depending on your home network setup, you could block all of the TV’s outgoing traffic on your firewall. I recently did this for my setup but I haven’t registered any hits yet.
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:43 am to
quote:

I'm guessing some smart people (kork?) Oh this board have figured out a way to block this at the router or something


Plug the TV into Ethernet when you first set it up. After it is set up, unplug the ethernet. Never give it your wifi password. Plug in Apple TV, Fire TV, or whatever box that you use that doesn't track. Profit.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Think I saw that thing for less than 500 bucks this past weekend. (65")



TCL 5 series 65" roughly $500
TCL 6 series 65" $719

everyone says 5 series is shite and pay $200 more for 6

i'm still debating going to 70" on the 6 series.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 10:16 am
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
78039 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Plug the TV into Ethernet when you first set it up. After it is set up, unplug the ethernet. Never give it your wifi password. Plug in Apple TV, Fire TV, or whatever box that you use that doesn't track


i was kinda hoping to use the built-in roku and not buy another box :/
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 11:48 am to
is there sound or something in the ads?

i already get bullshite on my regular roku so using that right screen space for shite i already ignore doesn't seem too bad



that right panel is just not a big deal to me
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 11:52 am
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 12:03 pm to
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i already get bullshite on my regular roku

really?

i only have experience with chromecast and fireTVs but was interestied in trying out Roku since everyone seems to like them but that sucks to have that crap on screen all the time. i just want a generic android box i can run apps on.

i didn't know roku showed ads like that.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 12:04 pm
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