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re: Linux advice
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:20 pm to notsince98
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:20 pm to notsince98
quote:
If it weren't for my kids playing computer games, I'd be back to 100% on Linux. It is just better at everything except the availability of games.
Looking into gaming on Linux on a desktop is part of the reason I want to get more familiar with it.
The Steam Deck works great running on Linux/Proton. Runs games beautifully. I've been using the Steam Deck as a PC in docked mode. As I get more comfortable with Linux I plan to set up dual boot on my gaming PC.
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:32 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Wine Is Not an Emulator
Busted.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:47 pm to j1897
I don't really understand your reluctance around Linux in 2024.
I'd argue that a good many distros are suited well to the everyday layperson. If all you're doing is browsing the web, checking email, social media, etc then there's zero reason to not use a free operating system other than the fact that they have to be technical enough to install a different OS.
For workplaces, maybe a bit different.
I'd argue that a good many distros are suited well to the everyday layperson. If all you're doing is browsing the web, checking email, social media, etc then there's zero reason to not use a free operating system other than the fact that they have to be technical enough to install a different OS.
For workplaces, maybe a bit different.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:49 pm to Hulkklogan
quote:
Busted.
The Wine Is Not an Emulator is tongue-in-cheek from the originators. It is a play on the GNU name which meant "GNU's not UNiX" but yes, it is essentially unix.
From the Wine FAQ LINK :
"Wine is not just an emulator" is more accurate. Thinking of Wine as just an emulator is really forgetting about the other things it is. "
It is a compatibility layer that is used to emulate windows. it isn't a full virtualization like a virtual machine but for all practical purposes, even the Wine creators call it an emulator but it does far more than that.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:55 pm to notsince98
quote:
"Wine is not just an emulator" is more accurate. Thinking of Wine as just an emulator is really forgetting about the other things it is. "
It is a compatibility layer that is used to emulate windows. it isn't a full virtualization like a virtual machine but for all practical purposes, even the Wine creators call it an emulator but it does far more than that.
You nerds with your fancy talk are what scares people away from Linux.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:11 am to j1897
quote:
I mean it's your preference, and that's fine. But everything?
The hw support is arse
The software support is arse
There's serious security concerns for someone who doesn't know what they are doing(heartbleed anyone??)
I think everything is a stretch.
Dude, you must be paid to be this stupid. You obviously know nothing about computers, and even less about operating systems.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:51 am to SpartanSoul
My advice is to familiarize yourself with the command line. You can download a live version of GNU/Linux. I recommend, Debian.
Page linking to Live Image of Debian.
This way you can install it on a USB drive and try it out before you commit to burning it on an SSD or hard drive. Play around with it. Learn the CLI and experiment with the different software packages. If and when you want to partition your drive and install it, then you know what you're getting into.
You can also look at other distributions this way without potentially messing up your windows installation.
Page linking to Live Image of Debian.
This way you can install it on a USB drive and try it out before you commit to burning it on an SSD or hard drive. Play around with it. Learn the CLI and experiment with the different software packages. If and when you want to partition your drive and install it, then you know what you're getting into.
You can also look at other distributions this way without potentially messing up your windows installation.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:56 pm to Ricardo
I recently changed my desktop from Win 11 to Mint. I generally like it, but there are things that absolutely infuriate me, but with enough searching I have worked around them.
Command line is one of them. I am old enough to have used DOS to load windows. Linux reminds me of this a LOT. We moved on from DOS to escape having to be programmers.
If you dont want to use command lines at least some of the time, leave linux alone unless all you want to do is surf the net.
Mint, at least with my hardware, has been pretty good, I have a Ryzen 7 CPU and a Radeon 6700 video card, but Linux's handling of video settings is terrible. I cannot get mint to turn off the monitors without totally cocking up the system and having to reboot. sleep/screen saver is busted and I am not savvy enough or committed enough to find out why. I just shut down the system at the end of every day like I did 40 years ago before windows.
Lots of things you take for granted on windows just dont exist on linux. I wanted linux to run my plex server, well, yeah, it can, but not without learning 3,497 command line routines to control it. I ended up building an old win 10 box just for my plex server.
As good as linux is, little things like this will ensure it will never be mainstream. To a lot of linux guys, that's just fine.
Basic functions and speed, its miles ahead of windows. I'll keep using and learning as I go. I recommend anyone try it to see if its for them, even with the issues I personally have, I am still an advocate of moving away from Microsoft.
Command line is one of them. I am old enough to have used DOS to load windows. Linux reminds me of this a LOT. We moved on from DOS to escape having to be programmers.
If you dont want to use command lines at least some of the time, leave linux alone unless all you want to do is surf the net.
Mint, at least with my hardware, has been pretty good, I have a Ryzen 7 CPU and a Radeon 6700 video card, but Linux's handling of video settings is terrible. I cannot get mint to turn off the monitors without totally cocking up the system and having to reboot. sleep/screen saver is busted and I am not savvy enough or committed enough to find out why. I just shut down the system at the end of every day like I did 40 years ago before windows.
Lots of things you take for granted on windows just dont exist on linux. I wanted linux to run my plex server, well, yeah, it can, but not without learning 3,497 command line routines to control it. I ended up building an old win 10 box just for my plex server.
As good as linux is, little things like this will ensure it will never be mainstream. To a lot of linux guys, that's just fine.
Basic functions and speed, its miles ahead of windows. I'll keep using and learning as I go. I recommend anyone try it to see if its for them, even with the issues I personally have, I am still an advocate of moving away from Microsoft.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 1/21/24 at 2:47 pm to stogie5150
I get what you're saying but I think your concerns are overstated for most users. I don't find you need to use the command line very often, although for me personally I want to learn to use it more.
It all comes down to what programs and any special needs you have. I find there are plenty of "click install" programs available. Hell, most of my wife's work is done through a web portal so the most important program to her is a browser.
As for PLEX I can't really say since as I stated, I'm happy with it on Win 11 and have no plans to change. I did have an UnRaid install that was complex and not sure if I want to go back to that. But I blame PLEX and not Linux for that, there are plenty of well-made programs on Linux.
But you are correct, everyone should give it a try, thankfully they make it so easy to try with no risk.
ETA: I've had no problems with sleep, I haven't used a screensaver.
It all comes down to what programs and any special needs you have. I find there are plenty of "click install" programs available. Hell, most of my wife's work is done through a web portal so the most important program to her is a browser.
As for PLEX I can't really say since as I stated, I'm happy with it on Win 11 and have no plans to change. I did have an UnRaid install that was complex and not sure if I want to go back to that. But I blame PLEX and not Linux for that, there are plenty of well-made programs on Linux.
But you are correct, everyone should give it a try, thankfully they make it so easy to try with no risk.
ETA: I've had no problems with sleep, I haven't used a screensaver.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:12 pm to j1897
quote:
heartbleed anyone??
You might want to do some research before posting about something you have little knowledge of.
Heartbleed was a problem with OpenSSL's encryption libraries. It was -not- repeat was -not- a Linux vulnerability.
As has been pointed out, the rest of your post is equally arse.
(edit) For a Linux beginner, I would suggest Mint. It is designed with beginners in mind. I would not recommend Debian. Also, Mint is based on Ubuntu which is based on Debian. Debian is for people with lots of experience with Linux based OS's.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 5:48 pm
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