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Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:39 pm to
Building a house now.. this HUE stuff looks fantastic and I'm definitely telling My contractor to put this in the living room, office, kitchen, and master bedroom.. thanks for the info
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:15 pm to


you wont be sorry. post here with questions.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34766 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:50 pm to
do I need to buy the starter pack for each individual room? or just bulbs?



ETA - just seeing that individual bulbs are $30

wonder if my contractor can fit this into the budget or if i'm going to have to come out of pocket for all of these... what do I need? about two per room?
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 4:53 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

do I need to buy the starter pack for each individual room?

no, just one starter pack.

quote:

or just bulbs?


philips sells $15 dimmable white smart bulbs or $49 color bulbs..although lately i've seen them on ebay for around $30

quote:

wonder if my contractor can fit this into the budget or if i'm going to have to come out of pocket for all of these... what do I need? about two per room?


depends on what you want. I think hue has these form factors:

- recessed lights
- color a19 'normal' bulbs <--- LOADS OF FUN
- white dimmable bulbs
- small base 'candelabra' bulbs
- bloom/iris floodlights you can plug in put in a corner
- new light fixtures (2 or 3 i've seen..very modern looking)
- light strips (and extensions up to 33 feet for longer runs)

i think that's pretty much their whole catalog. all these can be controlled via their phone app, any number of wild 3rd party apps, alexa or through IFTTT recipes.

as an example, here's a recipe to turn your HUE bulbs to LSU colors whenever they're playing on TV

LINK
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 5:14 pm
Posted by sherrifftaylor
SELP
Member since Jul 2012
891 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 6:24 pm to
How far away can the hub be from the bulbs?
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34766 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

color a19 'normal' bulbs <--- LOADS OF FUN


Not being a dick, but what's fun about them?

Also, like the guy above me asked, how far away will it reach?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:17 pm to
The color bulbs can either be soft white or you can tell Alexa to set them to "read", "energize"or concentrate which sets them very white for working on a project.

They can blink, change random colors for Christmas or Halloween, change to purple and gold automatically when LSU is on TV, turn red white and blue for July 4, turn yellow 10 minutes before the school bus arrives and red five minutes before the bus arrives...add a few sensors then you can have it turn green when the mail arrives and have them turn yellow if any door is unlocked, turn blue if it's raining outside, "dance"to any song playing.... On and on..

As for the hub, the lights talk to each other so in theory you could run a line of bulbs a long way and they would still work.. Range is about 100ft between bulbs and I think you can add 256 bulbs on one hub so that's a loooooong way. I read somewhere where a guy ran them for almost a mile along a fence.

You will never have an issue with range no matter how big your house is.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 10:23 pm
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34766 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 9:09 am to
That's frickin awesome... definitely getting this.. thanks for sharing
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 9:24 am to


I like finding a technology that actually works as advertised. So much crap out there (lots of it in Cad's house right now) does not.
Posted by Gauge
Member since Mar 2014
58 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 9:51 am to
It looks like a single light strip is 6.6 feet. If I want to make the first half of the strip purple, and the second half of the strip gold, does it give you that level of control? Or instead, does the entire strip have to be the same color?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:02 am to
no, you would need to have a separate strip to do that.

so you have 2 choices:

1 - buy the little 1m extensions to increase the length of a strip (up to 33 feet) but it only changes color as a whole

2- buy separate strips so you could change to a different color every 6 feet
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 10:03 am
Posted by sherrifftaylor
SELP
Member since Jul 2012
891 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:00 am to
Thanks CAD. I'm getting this too. So the wink and hue don't work together, is correct?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:47 am to
quote:

Thanks CAD. I'm getting this too. So the wink and hue don't work together, is correct?


they do. you can run hue through the wink app without buying the wink hub if you want. its free and provides more flexibility about scheduling than the hue app.

all the free wink app does is connect to the hue api to directly control the lights.

same way alexa and google home works; you just log into the alexa or wink app or home app and tell it to link to your hue account.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17245 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

post here with questions


Building a house right now and they are prewiring power for me to put light strips under kitchen cabinet uppers, above upper cabinets, and under lower cabinets. Also in the bathrooms under cabinets. Probably get power ran on built ins on each side of fireplace. Break it down to me how I "connect" all of these zones to control light colors in each area.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7510 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 9:14 pm to
Can vouch that cheap ones like to make flames appear and houses disappear

My apt in college burned down due to them
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:50 am to
quote:

Building a house right now and they are prewiring power for me to put light strips under kitchen cabinet uppers, above upper cabinets, and under lower cabinets. Also in the bathrooms under cabinets


all you need is to have your electrician put a hidden electrical outlet in each of those locations.

quote:

. Probably get power ran on built ins on each side of fireplace.


very good idea esp. if you want to put decorations out at christmas that use electricity too.

quote:

reak it down to me how I "connect" all of these zones to control light colors in each area.


Nothing to it. The app will allow you to set everything into a single group (say, 'living room') and you can then tell alexa:

"dim the living room 50%"

or you can talk to each individual strip:

"alexa set the left fireplace strip to purple, set the right fireplace strip to gold"

you can prebuild a 'scene' which sets the dimming level and colors of every hue light and strip in your house:

"alexa turn on lsu gameday in house"

think of hue like 'lego lights'. you can combine legos in endless ways and then have it activate based on a schedule, talking to it/clicking a button on your phone, or responding to environmental factors, lsu is on tv, the weather drops below freezing outside, its one hour before sunset, etc.

its really really simple.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:54 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Can vouch that cheap ones like to make flames appear and houses disappear

My apt in college burned down due to them


i remember you posting that on here. sorry to hear that.

my brother got me a $5 lightstrip off amazon and when its plugged in i can definitely feel the heat coming off the transformer to the point I stuck it on an iHome plug and very rarely turn it on.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17245 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:11 pm to
So the part that communicates with the app is in the power supply? So basically each power supply could be controlled independently?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

So the part that communicates with the app is in the power supply? So basically each power supply could be controlled independently?


yes, the radio that talks to the hue hub is in the power supply for strips.

for bulbs, the actual bulb itself has the radio built-in.

all you need to know is you name each 'doodad' and then can add them to groups, etc.

eta think of every device as having WiFI built into it..except in this case the "WiFi" is called "zigBee" and it can only talk to the Hue hub.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 12:20 pm
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7510 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:20 pm to
All good.

Insurance actually got me back up without a hassle.

As far as the Chinese strips themselves are concerned, I think they're fine. It's the cheap IR control box and power supplies that are the issue. I'll use the Chinese strips on 12v stuff (cars, boats, etc), but I'll never step down from 120 to one again
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 1:22 pm
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