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re: Just got the iPhone X in. It's fantastic

Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16277 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:30 pm to
Because the One Plus face unlock is much different than iPhone X. It isn’t similar to a mini Xbox Kinect like the iPhone’s version. It’s not trying to process nearly as much data about your face and probably much easier to fool.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96490 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:53 pm to
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It’s not trying to process nearly as much data about your face and probably much easier to fool.


It probably is easier to fool. That has nothing to do with having to swipe up every time and making what should be a one step process into a two. The One Plus also somehow managed to also include a finger printer reader as well.

And again, this is a budget phone at $500. Half the price of the iphone X.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 1:56 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62437 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 2:04 pm to
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It probably is easier to fool. That has nothing to do with having to swipe up every time and making what should be a one step process into a two


I was looking at a demo of Apple Pay and you do indeed need to double click the power button, look at your phone to Face ID and then put the phone on the Card Reader. As opposed to the one motion Touch ID method of holding the phone over the NFC with your thumb on the Touch ID. Authentication and Activation in the same step. But I see why they make you take the extra step with Face ID.

The problem with Face Authentication, and I don't know how the One Plus gets around this, is determining intent. They would have to ask for some face gesture like "Raise your eyebrows to authorize payment" to really get intent via Face Authentication.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 3:37 pm to
I’m sure the government is happy

Next time they kill a terrorist they just need to stick his iPhone in front of the corpse
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 3:38 pm to
I swipe up as it reads it

Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 3:41 pm to
See what you’re saying though. Unnecessary step

Feels kind of cool. Like I’m opening a door
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16277 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:21 pm to
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The problem with Face Authentication, and I don't know how the One Plus gets around this, is determining intent. They would have to ask for some face gesture like "Raise your eyebrows to authorize payment" to really get intent via Face Authentication.


From what I read, One Plus doesn’t use it for transactions or other security risk features, mostly just uses it to unlock the phone.
Posted by ForeverGator
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:29 pm to
I went ahead and tried the test of seeing if the phone would recognize my face from a photo. Thankfully it did not work.

Had to try it though.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51994 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:49 pm to
Apple is so behind the curve
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:24 pm to
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similar to a mini Xbox Kinect like the iPhone’s version


SIAP or common knowledge, but Apple bought the Israeli company that developed the Kinect 3D sensor several years ago, PrimeSense. At the time, people were still speculating that Apple was going to make an actual TV and use it for that.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
24940 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 5:56 pm to
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Oh and the battery is the best one I’ve had on an iPhone


Don’t worry, Apple will take care of that. My 7+ had the best battery I’ve ever had on a phone and they have found new and inventive ways to remedy that. That’s the one thing that has pissed me off. Otherwise, I love this phone.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 7:03 am to
Battery is the best
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22385 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:27 am to
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One Plus 


Face id just not a thing I'd try to use first. The fingerprint scanner would be as I can feel for that in my pocket and have it ready.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 8:28 am
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
63626 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:51 am to
Can you open theX in the Dark? I use my plane when flying at night and there is not muck light
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22385 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:04 pm to
Not sure. I don't think you can. I've seen multiple videos saying that was a huge complaint. Still don't know why apple couldn't put a scanner on a side button or the back.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 3:26 pm to
The face scanner illuminates your face with infrared. It works in the dark.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 3:39 pm to
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Can you open theX in the Dark? I use my plane when flying at night and there is not muck light


Haven't had an issue yet in bed before going to sleep.

and here's a video of Apple confirming
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 3:50 pm
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 7:57 am to
Mine opens in the dark with a hat and sunglasses on
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