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re: iPhone and green messages from android users
Posted on 11/4/19 at 11:00 am to uway
Posted on 11/4/19 at 11:00 am to uway
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It doesn't seem like RCS is going to end the green/blue bubble divide. Rcs is available now with Google Messages, and it still doesn't work with iMessage.
And I really don't see Apple ever reconciling the issue because their business model is to sell hardware.
For the little that I know on this topic, I don't see how it will. RCS is encrypted where, on the carrier and/or Google? iMessage is encrypted and stored on apple's datacenter. There's no way for those to EVER play nice. Apple will NEVER let imessages be stored by a Carrier(s) nor by Google and I'd imagine vice versa.
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Something I cant figure out since moving to Android is how iMessage could be so much better than any messaging app available for android.
This is one reason I couldn't stand android. How many messaging apps are there? 6000? And Google has killed 5000 of them in the last 5 years.
Do the android users CONSTANTLY have to tell their friends. "Hey, it's November so we gotta switch to TappaTappafricktardNameHere" app this month cause "AlloAlloWTFisGoogleDoing" app just died".
Call me an Apple fanboy but I don't have time for all that nonsense.
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 11:19 am to DoubleDown
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Call me an Apple fanboy but I don't have time for all that nonsense
Im no Apple fanboy but switching to Android has given me a new appreciation for what Apple gets right.
And it's just silly to blame them for not offering iMessage for Android phones.
I'm thinking that it's only a matter of time before Apple releases an iOS that offers more flexibility in the interface.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:02 pm to gobuxgo5
quote:But some of these people are not female.
convince others to not be poor and get an iPhone.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:27 pm to DoubleDown
You do realize that when any message you send ends up as a green bubble it is not encrypted, but kept on the carriers servers right?
RCS will be the same way. It will be the fallback for texting Android users. It will just allow videos to come through uncompressed.
As far as the switching messaging apps point, I agree that Google has done a terrible job over the years, but I have had Android for 5 or 6 years now and have had 2 messaging apps. The stock messenger does 99.99999% of what I need, and WhatsApp takes care of the .000001% left. If you are having to ask people to constantly download different apps you are doing something wrong
RCS will be the same way. It will be the fallback for texting Android users. It will just allow videos to come through uncompressed.
As far as the switching messaging apps point, I agree that Google has done a terrible job over the years, but I have had Android for 5 or 6 years now and have had 2 messaging apps. The stock messenger does 99.99999% of what I need, and WhatsApp takes care of the .000001% left. If you are having to ask people to constantly download different apps you are doing something wrong
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:29 pm to uway
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And it's just silly to blame them for not offering iMessage for Android phones
But it's not silly to call apple out for constantly talking about privacy, and encryption, then forcing theirs users to send unencrypted messages to 51% of the US market
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:40 pm to DoubleDown
quote:I don't have a clue what you mean. I have always used the stock messaging app with zero problems.
This is one reason I couldn't stand android. How many messaging apps are there? 6000? And Google has killed 5000 of them in the last 5 years.
Do the android users CONSTANTLY have to tell their friends. "Hey, it's November so we gotta switch to TappaTappafricktardNameHere" app this month cause "AlloAlloWTFisGoogleDoing" app just died".
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:44 pm to AlxTgr
I guess I use texting different than others. But I don't care about "liking" messages, I don't care about typing indicators because I always close the app as soon as I send my message anyway, and I don't care about read receipts.
Literally the only feature from iMessages I care about is uncompressed video and even then, it is something I use only a couple times a month so sending through Google photos is easy.
All that to say, regular sms/mms in the stock messages app works perfect for my needs
Literally the only feature from iMessages I care about is uncompressed video and even then, it is something I use only a couple times a month so sending through Google photos is easy.
All that to say, regular sms/mms in the stock messages app works perfect for my needs
Posted on 11/4/19 at 2:50 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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Not sure. It was puzzling why they never put allo and messages together. I think they were banking on RCS.
Google or Apple could have both easily owned the entire messaging market. Apple as always was too Apple to let that happen, and Google is practically schizophrenic when it comes to developing software. It seems like they come out with and kill a new messaging app on an annual basis.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 3:32 pm to dltigers3
quote:All of this and I might get someone send a video twice a year.
I guess I use texting different than others. But I don't care about "liking" messages, I don't care about typing indicators because I always close the app as soon as I send my message anyway, and I don't care about read receipts.
Literally the only feature from iMessages I care about is uncompressed video and even then, it is something I use only a couple times a month so sending through Google photos is easy.
All that to say, regular sms/mms in the stock messages app works perfect for my needs
Posted on 11/4/19 at 4:30 pm to AlxTgr
You're missing out on how handy it is to be able to quickly and easily heart or thumbs up a message with iMessage. This is a fairly recent feature on iPhones but its awesome.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 4:45 pm to uway
I've seen it in action, it's just not my style. Seems like something more geared towards teens in my opinion. But I understand that some people enjoy that feature so if that is important to you, great.
I don't even "like" or heart stuff on Instagram.
I don't even "like" or heart stuff on Instagram.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 5:39 pm to DoubleDown
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Do the android users CONSTANTLY have to tell their friends. "Hey, it's November so we gotta switch to TappaTappafricktardNameHere" app this month cause "AlloAlloWTFisGoogleDoing" app just died".
Was this a real question?
Posted on 11/4/19 at 5:44 pm to bbap
quote:quote:
Do the android users CONSTANTLY have to tell their friends. "Hey, it's November so we gotta switch to TappaTappafricktardNameHere" app this month cause "AlloAlloWTFisGoogleDoing" app just died".
Was this a real question?
Obviously not, since we've all been using Google Wave to communicate for 10 years now.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 7:55 pm to dltigers3
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Seems like something more geared towards teens in my opinion.
Or people who are busy at work and want to respond with the least amount of effort possible.
"just not my style" - come on, man
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I don't even "like" or heart stuff on Instagram.
It's only superficially like that.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:05 pm to uway
I use quick reply in the stock messages app for when I don't have time to type out a message. My wife thinks it's hilarious because I will never actually send an emoji if I type out a text, but when they come up on my quick reply list I send them all the time.
And I don't know what's wrong with saying that it's not my style... It just seems gimmicky to me. As I said, if it is a useful feature for you, great.
Can you explain how liking a comment in iMessage is only superficially like liking a comment on Facebook? Seems pretty similar to me, but maybe I am missing something
And I don't know what's wrong with saying that it's not my style... It just seems gimmicky to me. As I said, if it is a useful feature for you, great.
Can you explain how liking a comment in iMessage is only superficially like liking a comment on Facebook? Seems pretty similar to me, but maybe I am missing something
Posted on 11/5/19 at 6:54 am to uway
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I thought WhatsApp would be a good alternative for texts to my wife's iPhone but so far it seems totally inferior to iMessage.
I’m an iPhone loyalist but almost exclusively use WhatsApp. It’s way better for sharing media and group chats.
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Why cant I just long-hold the message and "react" with a thumbs up or heart? Why cant I see bubbles when she's responding? Lame.
You can swipe on a particular message and it will show you replied to message in particular. Also when someone is replying it says “typing” under their name, if the feature is enabled.
WhatsApp is much better.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:56 am to dltigers3
quote:Pretty sure that was not serious
I've seen it in action, it's just not my style. Seems like something more geared towards teens in my opinion. But I understand that some people enjoy that feature so if that is important to you, great.
I don't even "like" or heart stuff on Instagram.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:58 am to dltigers3
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You do realize that when any message you send ends up as a green bubble it is not encrypted, but kept on the carriers servers right?
Yes. I didn't mean to imply anything different. Basically, to me:
Blue bubble = iphone user and our chats are encrypted.
Green bubble = android user and our chats are NOT encrypted.
I don't normally care at all cause I'm not all that of a tinfoil hat guy, however, there are times where my wife and I might get a little kinky in chat or my friends and I might be a little vulgar or insensitive. In today's day and age (as a white male), I'd prefer all of those to never see the light of day.
In those instances, I have more trust in my "blue bubbles" than I do in the "green bubbles". Govt, FBI, local law enforcement, etc can seize green bubble information. Apple has shown that they are willing to keep imessage data private and absolutely not hand it over.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:00 am to DoubleDown
Gotcha, I thought you were saying they wouldn't implement RCS fallback because it wasn't encrypted, so I was just pointing out that their current fallback isn't encrypted either
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