re: I got ATT Fiber Installed Today..

You have to use ATTs router. You can't remove it completely, but you can put it in passthrough mode so it acts basically as a switch. Then you can use your own router.

I would second this. Drop cable to any room that has a device with a port. Pick up a cheap network switch if there are multiple

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You have to use ATTs router. You can't remove it completely, but you can put it in passthrough mode so it acts basically as a switch. Then you can use your own router.

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This is correct. Replaced Cox a month ago. ATT dropped their router. You plug your wireless into theirs and your off. I’m using Amazon EERO 6 and it’s so easy your 12 yr old could set it up.

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With today’s wireless tech their isn’t any reason to run Cat cable through your house if you have a good mesh system.

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I may be biased and/or opinionated, but this is just not true. Not from a technical perspective, not from an aesthetic perspective, and not from a long term value perspective.

Wireless systems have to share the same medium, the space in and around the building. The spectrum available is limited, though there are a lot of fancy tricks to put a whole lot of data out there. But whatever can be done through space can be done through a cable, but it's all contained within the cable. You can easily double or 10X or 100X the capacity of cables by just adding more cables. We can't create more space and spectrum.

Aesthetically and functionally, mesh units occupy a wall outlet and typically some shelf space. So they take up useful space *and* have to be near a wall, which is rarely the best location for a Wi-Fi AP. Running cables allows you to put your APs in more optimal locations, typically in the middle of open spaces with ceiling mounted units, and they don't take up useful space or have visible wires.

Value wise, running cables is an investment. It might cost you $200-300 per cable run plus $150 or so per AP. But with the infrastructure in place, future upgrades are much cheaper than with a mesh system. Running cables will pay off in 5-10 years.

You can do 3x drops and a switch for $50 if you look around. That covers 2x remote nodes one media area. You save money by only needing 2x2 160mhz nodes for peak performance.
You waste a lot more money paying for 1g internet when only a 15 foot semi-circle in your house can pull >500m to common clients and the rest is in the 300 range.

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My ATT fiber is great. Dump their wifi router. It's shitty equipment. Depending on budget Eero 6 is a good choice.

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Hold up. I'm getting AT&T fiber installed today as well. I'm under the impression that you have to use their modem/router combo. I'm currently using Eero 6s with an Aris modem on my Cox service and would love to use them with the new fiber. How does one do that without a modem?

ETA--finished reading the thread. Thanks for the info, everyone!

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Your run of the mill home user isn’t going to be able to tell the difference in a good mesh network over Cat6 networking cables.

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You said there isn't any reason. I gave you some reasons. Gamers can tell the difference. A lot of other users can, too.

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At $200 a drop you will never see a ROI on cabling.

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You will see the ROI the very next time you upgrade.

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I have 23 devices running off my mesh and it runs fine.

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I have 58 wifi and 18 wired devices on my home network right now. I have 3 wired Unifi APs. All runs great.

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We stream everything.

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Streaming video is one of the least demanding use cases. It needs only 5mbps for HD (or maybe 20 for 4k), is very tolerant of high and spiky latency, dropped packets, etc. We could have streamed HD video on 5 TVs simultaneously on 2003 era WiFi.

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So what happens if I have 3-4 devices in one location that need network access?

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Whatever you want to happen. The options are pretty wide open.

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You put a switch in?

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Sure.

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You run multiple cables?

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Sure.

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What kind of switch are you going to run at your endpoint?

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Personally, if it's a wall drop I would probably use a U6 In-Wall which would give me wifi in the room as well as 4 network ports while using zero power outlets.

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Most people aren’t going to want to spend thousands of dollars on cabling and network equipment in today’s technology market.

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They already do. A shitload of people are paying $15+/mo to rent shitty ISP wifi gear. In 5 years they've paid $900 and don't own a damned thing.

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Most people aren’t going to want to spend thousands of dollars on cabling and network equipment in today’s technology market.

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I’m cheap, and I’m ~$500 into 4 UniFi APs that are almost invisible. 1 in the attic with 3 in-walls in bedrooms that spread rock solid WiFi and have built in switches to hardwire to. This setup has been going strong for the last 5 years and doesn’t look tacky with the little mesh extenders plugged into wall outlets around the house.

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In related news, AT&T is burying fiber in my neighborhood as we speak. They busted a water main a couple hours ago, flooded two streets, and knocked out water for half the 'hood. I have the whole thing on camera

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i look forward to kork's fiber experience with great interest.

in ATT's defense, they promised me fiber before seeing the setback of my house.

2 days and 3 bucket trucks later, they ran fiber from the street a good 1/10 of a mile to reach my house along 6-8 poles they had to string it to.


no charge.

i sat outside and watched and waited for them to walk up say 'sorry we're not doing this'

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I hope so, have the Apple TVs all hardwired besides kitchen, and office is hard wired. WiFi works great all throughout the house and even in the yard.

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you can go damn near half mile p2p with those things. didn't kork or someone else on here have a ridiculously long AP setup?