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re: How much streaming data is a Terabyte?
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:29 pm to CAD703X
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:29 pm to CAD703X
quote:
one day you'll grow up and realize the adults are talking
Says the retard parent whose household drools mindlessly while staring at a television and running their monthly bandwidth allotment out.
You're really too stupid to realize how fricking retarded you really are. Drive on Doofus - feed that beast, society needs you.
#dumbass
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:32 pm to stat19
melt
Posted on 5/17/18 at 5:47 pm to stat19
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Says the retard parent whose household drools mindlessly while staring at a television and running their monthly bandwidth allotment out.
Says the idiot who is apparently too stupid to realize when a company is fricking their customers. Or too dumb to understand the difference between bandwidth and throughput. ISPs advertise and sell a bandwidth allotment (100mbps or what have you). Data caps are an extra charge on total data transferred or throughput.
If too many users are, you know, actually using their bandwidth allotment and it's putting a strain on the network, this indicates piss-poor network management and it should be rectified either by increasing capacity or REIMBURSING THE AFFECTED USERS. Instead, ISPs are CHARGING EXTRA for their FAILURE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THEY SOLD.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 6:17 pm to Korkstand
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Korkstand
You too Doofus?
The point of my post was pointing out how a father allows his entire family to mindlessly stare at a tv to point of being charged an overage fee.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 6:20 pm to CAD703X
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CAD703X
You're just a little victim aren't you? Poor baby.
Muh Streaming
Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:57 pm to stat19
Are you on drugs? Is that your problem?
Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:08 pm to CAD703X
quote:
Are you on drugs? Is that your problem?
No, I'm laughing at your little snow flake arse for whining over the issue you're whining over.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:55 pm to Spankum
Keep in mind that some of these calculations you've been given don't discern the difference between a TB (terabyte) and Tb (terabit).
1 terabyte = 8 Terabits.
Most households that regularly exceed this limit are people who have cut the cord, which I am guessing is the point.
If you stream at 4K quality you can hit the limit by averaging a few hours a day. If you're streaming at SD and HD quality and still hitting the cap then your family is watching too much TV.
1 terabyte = 8 Terabits.
Most households that regularly exceed this limit are people who have cut the cord, which I am guessing is the point.
If you stream at 4K quality you can hit the limit by averaging a few hours a day. If you're streaming at SD and HD quality and still hitting the cap then your family is watching too much TV.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:17 pm to Korkstand
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Imagine if the movie theater could charge you for entering the movie, and then charge you more based on how long your eyes were open or how much you enjoyed the movie! Or if a theme park would charge you to get in the gate, and then charge for each ride you go on! Or if a doctor would charge for their services, and then keep billing you monthly because you continue to live! Or if an insurance company would charge you premiums, and then send you an additional bill whenever they have to actually DO something!
I’m on the anti-data cap side, but those are all terrible analogies
A restaurant charging $10 for “all you can eat wings” unless you eat more than 25 then they charge you .50 cents per extra wing is more similar. But even then the ISPs are calling it “unlimited data” and then putting a cap on it
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:44 am to jg8623
quote:That's just, like, your opinion, man.
those are all terrible analogies
The point is they are charging for the same service in two different ways.
If you have 100mbit service and a 1TB cap, you can only use your service for 3% of the time before they start charging extra. You are paying MONTHLY for a service that you can only use to its potential for ONE HOUR PER DAY.
Is this a better analogy: your landlord charges you by the month for an apartment, but if you actually use the apartment for more than one day he starts charging extra.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:09 am to Korkstand
the faster the pipe, the faster you will (uintentionally) burn through the data cap. its not like anyone ever said 'oh damn this new 4K content looks too nice i'd better turn it down to 720p QUICK in case i start getting overage charges.'
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:28 am to CAD703X
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the faster the pipe, the faster you will (uintentionally) burn through the data cap. its not like anyone ever said 'oh damn this new 4K content looks too nice i'd better turn it down to 720p QUICK in case i start getting overage charges.'
I've blown through the data cap in the past two months with Cox after cutting the cord in November.
Two person household with three TV's (2 Fire Sticks and 1 Chromecast) using DirecTV Now
The 2 Fire Sticks use almost 4 GB per hour each streaming DirecTV Now
The Chromecast uses around 2 per hour streaming DirecTV Now
I got rid of the Fire Stick on one of the TV's because it has a Roku interface. Until recently, I was having lots of trouble with the DirecTV Now app on Roku. The DirecTV Now Roku app uses about 2.5 GB per hour. I'm in the process of getting a Roku to replace the other Fire Stick.
It's ridiculous you have to go through this crap
Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:29 am to wizziko
shhhhhh, stat19 is gonna show up again and call you and your family names for exceeding your data cap.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:09 am to CAD703X
Data caps are flat out ridiculous. Telecom companies flat out stole tax dollars to improve the systems and did nothing with them. Anyone who defends telecom companies is not operating in reality. They're price gouging thieves, plain and simple.
Techdirt
I'm all anti-government and hate intrusion, but in the case of the internet, it should be regulated as a utility at this point. And they're taking us away from that as fast as they can.
Techdirt
I'm all anti-government and hate intrusion, but in the case of the internet, it should be regulated as a utility at this point. And they're taking us away from that as fast as they can.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:16 am to lsu480
quote:I bet you agreed with the phone companies when they started charging 10cents per text too.
They don't punish anyone. They charge people based on how much of their product a person uses...kinda like every other business out there.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:20 am to EarlyCuyler3
kork is 100% correct. my friend was punished because his hobby is video production. handling massive 4K files and pushing them up/down from his cloud account for editing means he hits the 1TB limit in his first week every month.
what's the point of bragging about 100mbps, 250mbps+ etc speeds to customers when if they actually use that for more than a day or 2 they've hit the wall and start paying out the arse for 'overages'.
there's a classic interview with comcast execs who literally decided in a meeting to pull an artibtray 'cap' number out of the air. no justification; they just wanted to put this out there as an additional revenue stream.
comcast feels alot like blockbuster in the 1990s; instead of making the bulk of their money off late fees, they're making it on overages and in particular..zinging the cord-cutters as revenge for cancelling their overpriced tv shite.
what's the point of bragging about 100mbps, 250mbps+ etc speeds to customers when if they actually use that for more than a day or 2 they've hit the wall and start paying out the arse for 'overages'.
there's a classic interview with comcast execs who literally decided in a meeting to pull an artibtray 'cap' number out of the air. no justification; they just wanted to put this out there as an additional revenue stream.
comcast feels alot like blockbuster in the 1990s; instead of making the bulk of their money off late fees, they're making it on overages and in particular..zinging the cord-cutters as revenge for cancelling their overpriced tv shite.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:20 am to stat19
quote:
Says the retard parent whose household drools mindlessly while staring at a television and running their monthly bandwidth allotment out.
You're really too stupid to realize how fricking retarded you really are. Drive on Doofus - feed that beast, society needs you.
quote:
#dumbass
you talking shite to my boy CAD? why dont we meet at the fricking sonic and you can check my fricking knuckles.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:25 pm to CAD703X
That's the entire point of data caps exactly. It wasn't an issue until the TV numbers started plummeting. Now all of a sudden we can't afford all this data. Money grab plain and simple.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 3:50 pm to Korkstand
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And to go into this a little bit... Data caps are a charge on data transferred, but there is no cost associated with transferring data. There is no product being consumed here. The ISP sells users an allotment of bandwidth capacity (100mbit or whatever), which is also how they buy it. This is a momentary measure of the network's capacity, not an amount of data. This is how bandwidth is sold every step of the way, until it reaches the consumer in certain markets that lack competition. Regardless, if they want to charge by the byte, fine. Advertise that and sell that. But don't advertise and sell a capacity, and then charge fees for actually using that capacity. That's double-dipping. Oh, how great it would be for businesses in all industries if they could get away with double-dipping. Imagine if the movie theater could charge you for entering the movie, and then charge you more based on how long your eyes were open or how much you enjoyed the movie! Or if a theme park would charge you to get in the gate, and then charge for each ride you go on! Or if a doctor would charge for their services, and then keep billing you monthly because you continue to live! Or if an insurance company would charge you premiums, and then send you an additional bill whenever they have to actually DO something! But those businesses can't do that either because they have competition or because it just doesn't make any goddamned sense. Yet people like you are seemingly A-OK with ISPs doing it.
Interesting.
I talked to a guy who works for a cable company and he said if they have a way to make money they are going to do it. He also said that with moving towards gigablast, etc.. that the prices help go to the costs of equipment and whatever else is needed on their end to expand. I don't know if that is legit or not.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 3:52 pm to wizziko
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I've blown through the data cap in the past two months with Cox after cutting the cord in November.
Did you get the unlimited added?
I had to. I hate having to watch and monitor.. I rather just pay the extra and have unlimited.. and I am sure to use it up.
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