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Hackers Say They've Broken Face ID a Week After iPhone X Release

Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:34 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61496 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:34 am
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On Friday, Vietnamese security firm Bkav released a blog post and video showing that—by all appearances—they'd cracked Face ID with a composite mask of 3-D-printed plastic, silicone, makeup, and simple paper cutouts, which in combination tricked an iPhone X into unlocking. That demonstration, which has yet to be confirmed publicly by other security researchers, could poke a hole in the expensive security of the iPhone X, particularly given that the researchers say their mask cost just $150 to make.

But it's also a hacking proof-of-concept that, for now, shouldn't alarm the average iPhone owner, given the time, effort, and access to someone's face required to recreate it.

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I don't know how legit this is or not. Apple worked with Hollywood effects studios to make masks to test it so it seems unlikely that the home made version would work and the Hollywood mask would fail. That being said, this right here is why getting rid of Touch ID completely was a mistake. These hacks aren't really practical against the average person but it still would be nice to respond to them with "if you don't feel comfortable with Face ID you have Touch ID."
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:39 am to
My gut says that they bring touch ID back when the reader can be incorporated into the LED screen.

Although it seems like this is more difficult than it sounds...as Samsung nor Apple was able to get it in their latest phones.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50344 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:59 am to
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That being said, this right here is why getting rid of Touch ID completely was a mistake


Was it?

You think its easier to recreate someones face than their fingerprint?

Also if you are THAT important, you can wipe your phone in a matter of minutes if you lose it and are so concerned about it being cracked that someones has made a mask to hack into your phone.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61496 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:05 pm to
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You think its easier to recreate someones face than their fingerprint?


It's not about hackability, it's about public perception. While TouchID is susceptible to impractical hacks as well, that is old news and we've never heard any actual breaches stemming from it. There also is the problem that Apple came out and specifically said masks couldn't fool it. They never made that kind of claim with TouchID.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85034 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:15 pm to
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While TouchID is susceptible to impractical hacks as well, that is old news and we've never heard any actual breaches stemming from it
I'm sure that over time, this will be the case with faceID. This isn't a real "hack" in that anyone could do it or would even try to do it. This is a clickbait article.

Apple wanted a full screen phone. They had to either move the fingerprint censor to the back or find another way to authenticate. They chose the latter. People will get used to it. Moving on.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50344 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:26 pm to
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There also is the problem that Apple came out and specifically said masks couldn't fool it.


Ahhhh
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51662 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:05 pm to
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sounds...as Samsung nor Apple was able to get it in their latest phones.
Samsung just gave up on the 9 also
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:08 pm to
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Samsung just gave up on the 9 also


Damn...it will be a while before we see it.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:09 pm to
If you’re so important that someone would go to such links to break into your phone, just keep the pin enabled.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57440 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:11 pm to
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My gut says that they bring touch ID back when the reader can be incorporated into the LED screen.
the worst place to put the sensor is on the front of the screen. the pixels placement is perfect. your finger is right on it when you pick up the phone without having to adjust your hand.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61496 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:20 pm to
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the worst place to put the sensor is on the front of the screen


It's actually very convenient. I unlock my iPhone 6 quite often while it's back is not easily accessible to me, either sitting face up on a desktop, desk stand or in a dashboard stand.
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3732 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:53 pm to
The same type of story came out when Apple moved to Touch ID.

While it is possible to hack, it isnt remotely feasible for the average criminal. Plus, with the ability to remotely wipe devices or brick them, this is very low risk.

The average user should be more worried about clicking a bad link in an email than this BS. Clickbait, as another poster said.

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My gut says that they bring touch ID back when the reader can be incorporated into the LED screen.


In regards to the X, I doubt you'll see another iPhone with Touch ID or a home button. It is so much more intuitive to unlock the device and authenticate by just looking at the screen. You'll see the "notch" incorporated into the screen before you see a fingerprint scanner embedded underneath it.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 5:46 pm to
Not looking legit, we will see if they can back up this hack.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:01 pm to
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mask cost just $150
cost prohibitive?
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 11/14/17 at 12:48 pm to
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That being said, this right here is why getting rid of Touch ID completely was a mistake.


I mean, TouchID was cracked pretty quickly too using a 3000 dpi 3d printer to recreate a finger print.
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