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going to see my friend who strung all the cat6a. bad idea to buy a crimping tool?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:55 am
its probably a bit early to do much with the walls still open but never having punched down twisted pair am i setting the stage for failure by attempt to connect a few wall plates?
i assume i need some sort of 'signal purity' doodad as well to test the connection health on each.
just tell me "NO CAD NO" and i'll listen
i assume i need some sort of 'signal purity' doodad as well to test the connection health on each.
just tell me "NO CAD NO" and i'll listen
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 10:57 am
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:59 am to CAD703X
Instead, you'll only find encouragement! Cat5 was easy, and I saw plenty that worked where the pairs were untwisted waaay too far from the termination point, which means idiots could do it. However, I don't know how tolerant Cat6a is of non optimal untwisting.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:18 am to CAD703X
Never been an issue with my $10 Amazon kit. I’m sure if you’re doing 100s of connections and callbacks are expensive and bad for business, then definitely invest in proper tools and testers. That doesn’t sound like the case here.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:18 am to LemmyLives
Running network cable is stupid easy.
Spend the money to get a decent crimping tool as a good one is worth it, makes the job easier and less likely to have to redo connections. Also get a fox and hound that can check your pairs.
We just got upgraded to 5gigs for free in Chattanoga, glad I ran it.
Spend the money to get a decent crimping tool as a good one is worth it, makes the job easier and less likely to have to redo connections. Also get a fox and hound that can check your pairs.
We just got upgraded to 5gigs for free in Chattanoga, glad I ran it.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:23 am
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:49 am to CAD703X
I bought an $18.99 kit off Amazon that they don’t even sell anymore that had a crimper tool, connection tester tool and a bunch of clips and other stuff and have probably done 50+ connections with it over the last 6 years.
Good to have at a ridiculously low price.
Good to have at a ridiculously low price.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:10 pm to Dam Guide
quote:
We just got upgraded to 5gigs for free in Chattanoga, glad I ran it.
damn baw
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:41 pm to CAD703X
Are they wanting to do keystones and wallplates?
Different set of tools if so.
Different set of tools if so.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:43 pm to skrayper
Keystones, wall plates and generic rj45s for access points to be attached to later. I was wondering about that. This tool won't do punch downs for keystones? I was looking at the cable matters crimping tool and I bought cable matters keystones for the punch down boards
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:59 pm to CAD703X
You need a punch down tool for keystones.
This is what my team uses:
Cable Matters tool
You probably also want a continuity tester, though it might be a bit for a one time job. It will tell you if a cable got crossed or wasn’t punched down fully.
I would recommend getting one of these too:
Punch down tool stand
That will let the keystone rest while you punch it down.
Make sure you do 586b. Don’t worry about memorizing the color pattern; keystones typically have both patterns on the sides.
This is what my team uses:
Cable Matters tool
You probably also want a continuity tester, though it might be a bit for a one time job. It will tell you if a cable got crossed or wasn’t punched down fully.
I would recommend getting one of these too:
Punch down tool stand
That will let the keystone rest while you punch it down.
Make sure you do 586b. Don’t worry about memorizing the color pattern; keystones typically have both patterns on the sides.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:59 pm to skrayper
Thanks baw
Posted on 6/10/26 at 7:51 am to CAD703X
Yeah, those look pretty awesome. I’d get that cable matters stuff if I was doing it again.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 7:53 am to CAD703X
Anytime!
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:08 am to skrayper
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skrayper
This reply is pretty good.
I enjoy messing with these types of projects from time to time. Definitely get the punch tool and stand. Helps out tremendously.
I also enjoy having the crimp tool in the bag for making connectors, drops, or other situations where I'm not jacking into a keystone.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:25 am to CAD703X
It's so easy I can do it. I would recommend getting connectors that you can pull the wires all the way through. It's a pain in the arse to line them up when your unbundled wires are short. Tester is pretty straight forward.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:16 pm to junkfunky
quote:the 'matching led' testers seem more suited for sitting in the room with both ends of the connection handy. these long 100' runs that isn't really going to work right? i'll need the one that has a terminator you attach to one end then you can do all the readings from the other end.
Tester is pretty straight forward.
looks like 3 tools atm
- crimper
- puncher-downer-thingamajig
- tester with terminator for these long & awkward runs
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:31 pm to CAD703X
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i'll need the one that has a terminator you attach to one end then you can do all the readings from the other end.
The one I bought from Amazon has terminators on both pieces. The transmitter sends voltage to the wires individually and lights up the LEDs in order. The receiver lights up the LEDs as it reads voltage from the transmitter. If an LED doesn't light up you have a bad termination. If they light up out of order the wires got crossed. If they light in the correct order your connection is good to go.
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quote:
- crimper
- puncher-downer-thingamajig
My crimper came with a punchdown tool and rest.
This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 6/13/26 at 9:30 am to CAD703X
They do make tool-less keystones if you have not purchased yet.
I have done both. I have had no issues with the toll-less keystones. Cat-5E, though, not that I think that makes any real difference from the physical/mechanical point of view here.
CAT6 Keystone Jack Tool-Less RJ45 UTP, No Punch-Down Tool Required Module Coupler 12-Pack White
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I have done both. I have had no issues with the toll-less keystones. Cat-5E, though, not that I think that makes any real difference from the physical/mechanical point of view here.
CAT6 Keystone Jack Tool-Less RJ45 UTP, No Punch-Down Tool Required Module Coupler 12-Pack White
>Posted on 6/14/26 at 8:02 am to skrayper
quote:568b
Make sure you do 586b.
Years ago 568a was for residential. Nobody does 568a anymore.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 8:44 am to 1loyalbamafan
i come across plenty of residential wiring done by electricians that use A standard...adds to the excitement when their work has to be redone cause of bad termination...
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