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re: Echo Dot the most useless thing ever invented? ETA CAD giving it another go

Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:43 am to
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14969 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:43 am to
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junkfunky

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One thing I absolutely hate about the BT function is that it continues to output the audio to BT even when it's not connected to a device.


Once you hear Alexa connected to the device, you'll hear it call out what it considers, "it's name." You can then disconnect. You can also nickname different speakers and then use those nicknames and say, "Alexa, connect to [insert speaker name here]," and you should be connected. Likewise if you ask it to disconnect.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14969 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:45 am to
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CAD703X
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i cant get dot to connect to google music or pandora. that renders its ability to play music useless to me.

how exactly does your dot communicate with a soundbar? i can connect to my soundbar directly with my phone using bluetooth but i dont see how alexa would do that.


Using Amazon Prime, I can stream Amazon Music (which is a freebie for Prime Members), but I also use the $3.99 single Alexa device premium music service from Amazon which can also stream that music (honestly comparable to Apple Music/Spotify/etc IMO). You can also stream Tune In Radio channels using Prime as its included in the Alexa with Prime as well.

From there I just connect the Dot to whatever BT device I want and bingo bango boingo, I'm streaming whatever it's streaming to the speaker it's connected to.

I'm guessing Pandora can't be far off from being able to use with it but I left that service in the dust long ago...
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 10:47 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 10:57 am to
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I'm guessing Pandora can't be far off from being able to use with it but I left that service in the dust long ago...


there is ZERO music available on alexa for me right now because i don't have prime. i figured they wouldn't support google music but i was hoping for *something*.

i mean, can it not even support my local mp3 library? frick.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14969 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:07 am to
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CAD703X
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there is ZERO music available on alexa for me right now because i don't have prime. i figured they wouldn't support google music but i was hoping for *something*.

i mean, can it not even support my local mp3 library? frick.




Why not pay $10.99 for one month of Prime. Take it for a spin. See what you think. If for no other reason than you'd take far more full advantage of the Dot. Hell who knows, you may save some money on an online purchase by accident in the process.

The wife and kids get music and Amazon Prime Video (you can't tell me you wouldn't like The Grand Tour-previously Top Gear on BBC-in full, uncompressed HD quality), unlimited photo storage, and a far more robust and agile Echo device.

...and if none of that appeals to you, then it's done after 30 days...
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
35122 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:12 am to
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Why not pay $10.99 for one month of Prime.


Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86709 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:20 am to
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Why not pay $10.99 for one month of Prime.


why pay for something i don't use?

i have special versions of spotify, pandora, 40,000 mp3s and google music all free now. amazon just refuses to let me use any of it.

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Hell who knows, you may save some money on an online purchase by accident in the process.


i've posted numerous threads showing ebay is cheaper, far faster for delivery and in fact SHIP FROM AMAZON FULLFILMENT CENTERS many times. nobody seems to get this. no minimum order either.

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The wife and kids get music and Amazon Prime Video (you can't tell me you wouldn't like The Grand Tour-previously Top Gear on BBC-in full, uncompressed HD quality)


between comcast, netflix, plex and kodi i have movies and tv coming out of my ears already. don't need another source.

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unlimited photo storage,


already have this now with google for free and its far more integrated with my phone than any add-on from amazon would be.

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far more robust and agile Echo device.


so you admit echo is deliberately crippled by amazon unless i buy into their SaaS model? NO THANK YOU
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
35122 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:26 am to
right on time
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34970 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:27 am to
Hopefully Plex will develop an additional skill to play music natively on the Dot.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86709 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:32 am to
how do i trigger scenes in alexa? it says i can do it and i am controlling hue natively (deleted them from wink discovery since that was redundant) but it won't allow me to call any of the default scenes to change colors.

for instance i have a kitchen group in alexa and want to call the 'concentrate' default scene but no dice if i say 'alexa turn on kitchen scene concentrate'

anyone doing scenes with alexa to control color?
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 11:34 am
Posted by UHadMeAtMeatTornado
TX
Member since Aug 2012
277 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 12:28 pm to
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how do i trigger scenes in alexa? it says i can do it and i am controlling hue natively (deleted them from wink discovery since that was redundant) but it won't allow me to call any of the default scenes to change colors.

for instance i have a kitchen group in alexa and want to call the 'concentrate' default scene but no dice if i say 'alexa turn on kitchen scene concentrate'

anyone doing scenes with alexa to control color?



I think it requires the 2nd gen Hue Bridge in order for hue scenes to natively work.

I have the 1st gen bridge still, so I use Yonomi to control scenes with hue and Alexa.

Takes a little set up time, but I have a ton set up for everywhere I have hue bulbs (island, media room sconces, led strips behind TV in bedroom and living room, etc). Yonomi just updated their app recently to allow for a little bit more options for color control.

Before you could only pick specific color names and brightness levels. Now they have a full color wheel you can program.

I like yonomi over ifttt, since you don't have to say "trigger." I just just say, "Alexa, turn on Blue (or Red, green, etc) Sconces" and all 5 change color.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96490 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 12:57 pm to
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Why not pay $10.99 for one month of Prime. Take it for a spin.


Why pay for a music service when you already use others? That seems pretty straightforward.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86709 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:13 pm to
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I think it requires the 2nd gen Hue Bridge in order for hue scenes to natively work.


everything i've read said the 2 hubs are identical except v2 has homekit certification/support.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14969 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:42 pm to
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CAD703X
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so you admit echo is deliberately crippled by amazon


When have I ever stated that a device that was-for most of its existence-only available for Prime users was designed for non-Prime users? Hell Amazon hasn't ever denied it. They designed it STRICTLY for and limited its purchase to only Prime Users.

I love the way you spin up straw men to do battle with. It's hilarious.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86709 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 5:15 pm to
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think it requires the 2nd gen Hue Bridge in order for hue scenes to natively work.


Yep. You are right. Just spent some time on reddit and that seems to be the case.

Now where can I find a gen2 hub?

Posted by mctiger1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3693 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 6:48 pm to
Please tell me most of those boxes are empty...
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22385 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:19 pm to
I need some switches
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86709 posts
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:56 pm to
No. All unopened. That's my eBay cabinet.
Posted by mctiger1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
3693 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 6:16 am to
You aren't very good at ebay then letting them become antiques?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86709 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:24 am to
There is a seller with 500+ refurbished hue starter kits going for $135 that he's almost out of depressing the price. Waiting him out.

The go controls have rebounded in price to nearly $100 after the HD fire sale and I've just been lazy about getting those listed.

The GE br30s have been in the price shitter but now that nobody sells them I'm hoping the price starts to go up again.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22385 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 9:56 am to
I thought about getting br30s but I have 4 on one switch in each room and think it'd be cheaper to do switches instead of bulbs.
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