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Completely blocking youtube on child's iphone

Posted on 8/2/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3706 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 12:25 pm
I thought we had our kid's phone locked down really well. Youtube app wasn't even on the phone and safari was not an allowed app.

Turns out he could access youtube through an email he received through gmail. Confused me pretty good. He clicked a link that school sent him last year, which then gave him complete open access to youtube, also circumventing the screen time settings since gmail was an 'always allowed' app.

Anybody know of a way to close that loophole and completely block it?
Posted by frankthetank
Member since Oct 2007
2412 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 12:44 pm to
Take away the phone. Seriously, there are always workarounds.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38248 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 12:46 pm to
Get him a burner phone with no internet capabilities
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3706 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 1:06 pm to
Yep. I did literally hours of research and testing and I was all high and mighty and confident that we had SHUT THAT shite DOWN and that we were aware of any potential workarounds.....

I was wrong.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 1:12 pm to
youtube is the devil for little kids and tiktok is the devil for teenagers
Posted by Ignignokt
Member since Dec 2005
3460 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 1:22 pm to
I use NextDNS to setup a cloud firewall with policies. It works really well and also has an app you can install so it works outside your home network. If you have it setup correctly you can control it to where it cannot be uninstalled without parental intervention.

You can block sites and apps too.

NextDNS
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
20895 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 1:49 pm to
There's always something like this...

Top 15 Cell Phones without internet capability
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
21221 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 2:20 pm to
If he has an iPhone you can use the screen time feature that Apple provides in the settings. You can shut down anything
Posted by Rhio
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2013
1378 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 3:58 pm to
The only real way to lock down the phone, IMO, is to take away the internet access on it (turn off wifi, turn off cellular data). Your kid will only have access to the apps in front of him, and then not very much at that.

Of course, that makes the phone kind of useless since everything requires data of some kind, but it will at least prove a point to the kid that if you don't use it right, this is what you get: nothing.

I say this because kids, no matter their age, experience, ability...they will find a workaround. They are there and the kid will find them.
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 4:00 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130113 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:03 pm to
I don't have kids, so just curious, what makes youtube so bad for kids?
Posted by Rhio
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2013
1378 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

kywildcatfanone


Youtube is a cesspool filled with creepy, disturbing content disguised as kid-friendly. Here's a pretty good article about it:

The Verge

And that's just one of the many problems.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3706 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:43 pm to
There are absolutely some benefits-its awesome to watch early 90's music videos and 'how to build a shed' videos together, but we have decided at our house that unfettered access is just not what we want for them.

Its designed to intentionally be addictive.
My 13 year old's brain development is absolutely no match for the algorithm.
Its nearly 100% driven by narcissism.
Rabbit holes go south/inappropriate very quickly.
It is deeply engraining a desire for 'like' culture.

Just the first handful off the top of my head.
On a related note, social media sites will never happen as long as I am paying for the phones.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14724 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:58 pm to
We bought a GAB phone. Works on Verizon network.

Text and calls only. No group message either. Can take pictures but can't send or receive them.

$20/month
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1555 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 8:59 pm to
I don't have kids so maybe I'm missing something but why even give him an internet device if he is young enough to where being on the internet is a problem.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 9:54 pm to
nude yoga
Posted by mattchewbocca
houma, la
Member since Jun 2008
6062 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:07 pm to
My fiancé’s 7 year old is obsessed/addicted with YouTube and will have withdrawals if she can’t have it the entire day.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3706 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 10:31 pm to
Thats a fair question.

We had an old iphone laying around that we decided to use with limited functionality like music, groupme for his teams, google calendar, email, and fantasy football.

We actually thought we had it locked down appropriately through screen time settings until we discovered the 'youtube through an email link' loophole. The youtube app does not exist on his phone and safari is a disabled app.
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1555 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:23 am to
Understandable. I was a teen in the 90s with computers and internet, not the same internet as today but still enough out there to get you in trouble . Anyway, my parents thought they were clever and could control it too. But the problem was it's constantly changing and there was always a work around to their method of control, or overseeing, or limiting, or etc. which is probably more true today than ever. I'm not saying don't fight the fight but you should know it's in vain and
quote:

I did literally hours of research and testing and I was all high and mighty and confident that we had SHUT THAT shite DOWN and that we were aware of any potential workarounds

Is going to be a constant theme.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130113 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:30 am to
Seriously, I didn't know they allowed nudity.

I watch trucking and farm videos.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130113 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:31 am to
quote:

Just the first handful off the top of my head.
On a related note, social media sites will never happen as long as I am paying for the phones.





Social media has been a huge part of the decline of our society. It's happening so quickly too.
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