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Best Modem / Router Combo???

Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Seersucker
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2019
117 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:47 pm
Just signed up for Gigablast internet through Cox at my new house. Instead of renting their equipment, I'd rather get my own top of the line modem and router.

What setup would the tech board recommend? It's a 3,000 sf house.

TIA
Posted by LSUgEEkish
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
94 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:53 pm to
ARRIS SURFboard (find the current one that supports your needs) and Google WiFi. Never do a 2-in-1.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

Never do a 2-in-1.
Seconded. A combo unit will never be "top of the line".

1. It's not cost-effective. You're putting all your eggs in one basket, so when one thing breaks you have to replace the whole thing.

2. It will break. Consumer routers already do too much without active cooling. They are routers, switches, wifi access points, etc. They generate a lot of heat (that's why they fail so often), and adding a modem (which generates a ton of heat itself) on top of that is begging for failure.

3. It won't perform all that great. Devices without active cooling (fans) can only manage heat by throttling themselves, if they manage heat at all. That means the chips that move all your data around may slow themselves down to avoid burning up. Maybe your wifi range and speed will drop. Maybe it will just act flaky. Or maybe you won't notice any problems at all. Regardless, performance is almost always better with separate units.



If you have space considerations, maybe you will still choose the combo unit.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:30 pm to
Get any docsis 3.1 modem and then get the best separate router you can afford.
Posted by deltadon
River City
Member since Oct 2016
314 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:47 am to
No combo units. Just spend the $70-$100 on a modem and own it instead of the Cox up charge on it.

Posted by Seersucker
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2019
117 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 2:41 pm to
Thank you everyone for the recommendations.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 3:20 pm to
Google wifi is not the best mesh system. Unless they have a new model with a dedicated backhaul channel.
Posted by Seersucker
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2019
117 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:09 pm to
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Google wifi is not the best mesh system


What's the best?
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
Member since Nov 2012
5151 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:49 am to
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What's the best?

It's complicated. Google wi-fi and the newer version, Nest wi-fi, are dual-band systems: a 2.4 GHz and a 5 GHz band. You might want to look for a tri-band system, which has the "dedicated backhaul" channel CarRamrod is referring to. It's another 5 GHz band that is used exclusively to communicate between the access points and router, theoretically giving you better throughput and a more reliable mesh network. Tri-band mesh systems are more expensive. Also, if you happen to have hardwire network connections in your house (for example, I have a hardwire to my living room to connect the TV to the internet), you want to get a mesh system where the satellite units have ethernet ports. If you can connect a satellite via hardwire back to the router, you have "ethernet backhaul," which gives you the best performance. Having all of the satellites connected via ethernet backhaul is the ideal situation. If you can do this, you have to pay attention to the package you get.

In this package, you get two Nest routers, so both will have ethernet ports:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YMJ57MB/

In this package, you get one Nest router, and two "add-on points," which do not have ethernet ports:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/6382518.p

I put together a Linksys system where all the units have ethernet ports because I already had hardwire connections going to two locations that were also good places to put the wi-fi satellites, so I have ethernet backhaul for the ideal setup. The system also happens to be tri-band, but I don't need tri-band with my setup.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 4:52 am
Posted by Seersucker
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2019
117 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 9:25 am to
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TouchedTheAxeIn82


This is exactly what I needed. Thank you so much.
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1504 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 9:53 am to
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Seersucker


Like others have stated, don't do 2-in-1 device. How much control do you want to have over your WiFi/broadband? What is your budget? I've finally upgraded to a Ubiquiti solution in my home and love that I can put the kids on their own switch port that I can deactivate so they can't play video games during the week. Get to see more detailed info about device utilization for internet.

Would HIGHLY recommend finding a way to have a dedicated comm closet/space so you can run all network cables to a place that's out of the way and has airflow.
Posted by deltadon
River City
Member since Oct 2016
314 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:16 am to
I like Synology for a mesh system.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82361 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 6:50 am to
What are you paying a month for the gigablast?
Posted by jkylejohnson
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2016
13990 posts
Posted on 10/23/20 at 7:29 am to
I've got a netgear nighthawk and it's been going strong for about 4 years . Got it at best buy for around 150-200$
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