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re: Atlantic: AI makes iPhone a Trojan horse

Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:14 am to
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:14 am to
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wow, so you're equating apple storing all kinds of digital bits and pieces with an AI who is ACTIVELY CONNECTING THE DOTS on your phone to create a profile of who you are..a dangerous, gun lovin' southern white male who 'likes' donald trump posts and who the IRS may want to audit.

Again, if they wanted to create a profile on you, they could easily do so with those “digital bits and pieces.” In fact, they could do it more discreetly as the analysis would run on their servers where nobody can see it. Do you really think Apple or Google couldn’t tie “CAD703X” and your post history to your real name, occupation, date of birth, bank accounts, purchase history, search results, etc. if they wanted to? Do you really think they need an LLM on your phone to then create a profile of you based on those results? Why?

The entire point of running the LLM locally is to keep that information out of Apple’s hands in the first place, which creates an extra layer of privacy protection. If you don’t think believe that, then why would you expect any of that information to be private today?

Put it another way - the AI integration (from what I can tell) mainly applies to Siri. If you think they’re going to collect info and create a profile based on everything you ask Siri, why wouldn’t they be doing that now on their machines? If you think Siri is going to be collecting data at all times whether you use it or not, why wouldn’t you think it’s collecting data at all times right now?

If you aren’t willing to engage in any serious conversation about security measures due to a lack of trust, then you shouldn’t have any reason to believe any of your information is private to begin with.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86650 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:18 am to
You're happy co-existing with AI on your phone that believes men can get pregnant?

I'm sure that's the only fake information that's in the AI database.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:44 am to
Holy straw man.

Clearly a mistake to engage. Carry on.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:58 am to
strawman

bookmarked for when "just the tip" Siri AI integration slowly and inevitably creeps into the heart of your phone over the next 2 years.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37680 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 3:42 pm to
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"Alexa only listens to you after you say her name"



All the while singing quietly in the background

Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:26 pm to
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wow, so you're equating apple storing all kinds of digital bits and pieces with an AI who is ACTIVELY CONNECTING THE DOTS on your phone to create a profile of who you are..a dangerous, gun lovin' southern white male who 'likes' donald trump posts and who the IRS may want to audit.


WTF? You think Google hasn't long ago figured this out about you?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86650 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 8:49 am to
How it started

quote:

Apple adds AI to iphones


How it's going

OpenAI adds former NSA chief to its board



Life comes at you fast

Posted by low end
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 8:57 am to
For a paranoid dude, you're a little behind the times. I'm not a fan of the AI shift either, but AI has never been needed to build profiles on people.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
86650 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 9:11 am to
I'm sure stuffing it into phones and putting a spook with a history of illegally spying on Americans in charge is the same thing that Google has been doing
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62431 posts
Posted on 6/14/24 at 3:03 pm to
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I'm sure stuffing it into phones and putting a spook with a history of illegally spying on Americans in charge is the same thing that Google has been doing


Apple has said OpenAI being exclusive is not a on long term thing. I'd bet Apple's plan is to have an AI store and get a 30% cut of the paid consumer AI market.

This is a first step, the next step should be better.
This post was edited on 6/14/24 at 3:03 pm
Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/14/24 at 6:37 pm to
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same thing that Google has been doing


C'mon dude, Google knows how long a crap you took this morning, how long it took you, which toilet in your house you used, and how much you paid for your bidet...
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32523 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 8:12 pm to
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you may as well throw your smartphone into the ocean


That is the third time people have used that phrase in this thread. Can people please stop fricking saying this?

The ocean is a resource worth protecting.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11670 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:01 pm to
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That is the third time people have used that phrase in this thread. Can people please stop fricking saying this?

The ocean is a resource worth protecting.

1. I’m pretty sure it was only the second time.

2. It’s just a figure of speech, and quite an odd one to get triggered over.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
86650 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:08 pm to
I was going to give you 0/10 but then you caught the very next poster

So 2/10
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