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re: Apple Cuts Homepod Orders After Lackluster Sales
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:40 am to RollDatRoll
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:40 am to RollDatRoll
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Apple Music is the worst.
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What? Works great to me. I have no issues.
Same here...
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:56 am to TheWiz
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Same here...
Yeah I don't get the Apple Music hate, it works great for me and is a huge force.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:01 am to Spock's Eyebrow
"They are at 40 million users..."
While that might sound good, it isn't. The marketshare of iOS is slowly, inexorably dropping.with every quarter that passes. If that is users in the US, it's just over 10 percent.
Apple has floundered since Jobs' death. I was in an Apple store last month to get the battery on my Wife's iPhone 6 replaced. The overwhelming majority of people in the store were over 50 technophobes.
Apple is turning into the Oldsmobile of Tech while its CEO is too busy playing SJW to run a competitive business.
While that might sound good, it isn't. The marketshare of iOS is slowly, inexorably dropping.with every quarter that passes. If that is users in the US, it's just over 10 percent.
Apple has floundered since Jobs' death. I was in an Apple store last month to get the battery on my Wife's iPhone 6 replaced. The overwhelming majority of people in the store were over 50 technophobes.
Apple is turning into the Oldsmobile of Tech while its CEO is too busy playing SJW to run a competitive business.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:30 am to Boatshoes
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"They are at 40 million users..."
While that might sound good, it isn't. The marketshare of iOS is slowly, inexorably dropping.with every quarter that passes. If that is users in the US, it's just over 10 percent.
Wat. Apple did lose some share in the recent quarter or two in some markets in part due to the delayed and expensive X, but iOS market share in the US is ~ 40% per multiple articles, and Apple continues to claim the vast majority of profit in smartphone sales. Its services business alone would be a Fortune 100 company if it were split off.
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Apple has floundered since Jobs' death.
Wat. Apple's market cap is currently $900 billion, and 2/3 of that has come since Jobs died.
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I was in an Apple store last month to get the battery on my Wife's iPhone 6 replaced. The overwhelming majority of people in the store were over 50 technophobes.
I don't think that implies what you seem to think it does.
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Apple is turning into the Oldsmobile of Tech while its CEO is too busy playing SJW to run a competitive business.

Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:30 am to TigerGman
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Yeah I don't get the Apple Music hate, it works great for me and is a huge force.
Apple Music needs an app revamp (organization is rough) and the radio function is probably the worst among all major competitors
I also think that like Tidal, Apple Music is 90% devoted to pushing r&b and rap, but that's more of a personal annoyance than an objective one
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:31 am to Boatshoes
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Apple is turning into the Oldsmobile of Tech while its CEO is too busy playing SJW to run a competitive business.
Apple remains extremely popular among well-to-do young professionals
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:34 am to Pettifogger
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Apple remains extremely popular among well-to-do young professionals
Not to mention, 20 y/o AA cashiers at Albertsons love the 8 Plus and Watch.

Posted on 4/19/18 at 1:51 pm to TigerGman
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TigerGman
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I did. It works great with Apple music and the sound is very good.
My main gripe is that Echo's and Home were devices that can work across platforms and utilize voice and smart home automation much, much more efficiently and effectively than the HomePod can dare to dream of in its wildest REM cycles.
With Echo, you have a $30 entry point with a $99/year service like Prime. Or with Google, it's a similar price point for entry and without a need for Prime.
Apple's product won't work without another, far-more-expensive device that's tied to a huge up-front payment or a two-year long service agreement, period. It's easily the most expensive cost to get into the game, and that's not counting the actual cost of the product which is over 11 times more expensive than Amazon's product.
You can crow about the quality but it falls flat on functionality, so regardless of the design or build quality, it ends up being an inferior product from both a cost and a functional perspective.
You cannot compare this product to the iPod, the iPhone, the iPad or even the Apple Watch. In each case, Apple came out with a product that was compelling. Comparing my iPod Mini or 5th Generation iPod (Video iPod) to my Sansa tiny-arse, barely functional mp3 player before was laughable.
The iPhone was a revelation. Likewise, the iPad created a market for tablets almost out of thin air. The Apple Watch was a product that many people were already used to paying for at the price point it entered the market at to start off with, and had plenty of uses that extended the usefulness and functionality of existing Apple Products it was paired with.
The HomePod does not do that. It's a speaker that you can use Siri with. Siri being an already inferior feature. It does not provide the smart assistant (much less the polish) that Alexa or Home do...and it fails to hit these marks at over 10 times more of an expense to its market.
CAD and perhaps some others will tell you that I am an Apple aficionado. I have owned Apple Products for 14 years and extolled their virtues here since I was posting on the OT with the title, "Tech Board Post:..."
But this is a big failure. To be honest, it's not Project Ara or Google Glass...but it's in the same ballpark. Just a dumb decision on pricing and lack of functionality on Apple's end.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 1:57 pm to GFunk
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Google Glass
praise the lord that this failed.
can you imagine the world we would be living in today if everyone was walking around with glasses that recorded everything and had the 'facebook plugin' installed?

Posted on 4/19/18 at 4:04 pm to GFunk
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The HomePod does not do that. It's a speaker that you can use Siri with. Siri being an already inferior feature. It does not provide the smart assistant (much less the polish) that Alexa or Home do...and it fails to hit these marks at over 10 times more of an expense to its market.
That's not how it's being marketed. It's a serious sound quality device made to be used primarily with Apple Music with some limited Siri functionality.
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HomePod is a powerful speaker that sounds amazing and adapts to wherever it’s playing. It’s the ultimate music authority, bringing together Apple Music and Siri to learn your taste in music.
It does that very well.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 4:11 pm to TigerGman
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eah I don't get the Apple Music hate, it works great for me and is a huge force.
Needs streaming services like Spotify that is not tied to your phone.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 4:35 pm to TigerGman
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TigerGman
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That's not how it's being marketed. It's a serious sound quality device made to be used primarily with Apple Music with some limited Siri functionality.
Which coupled with the lackluster sales should prove to you or anyone capable of rational thought that its failed in that marketing process.
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It does that very well.
Apple Music is better than folks think or give it credit for, but using Siri and not utilizing Bluetooth (when its actually included in the innards of the damn speaker itself) to help it reach its full potential and maximum usefulness is essentially maiming it for no reason.
Again, the proof is in the sales pudding. They overestimated the market of Apple aficionados and/or those caught behind the walls of their ecosystem. They should have honestly planned or allowed for a design that allowed the device to branch out past said walls to ensure enough sales to be successful.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 5:02 am to GFunk
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Which coupled with the lackluster sales should prove to you or anyone capable of rational thought that its failed in that marketing process.
Mehhh I think they simply overpriced it.
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but using Siri and not utilizing Bluetooth (when its actually included in the innards of the damn speaker itself)
You're just hung up on inability to play bluetooth when anybody with common sense wouldn't want to with something that will work and sound much better over wifi.
Posted on 4/20/18 at 6:28 am to TigerGman
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Mehhh I think they simply overpriced it.
This is where your lack of objectivity is revealed. The literal definition of a marketing plan is place, product, promotion and price.
By trying to disagree with me you willingly admitted you agree with me and just don’t know WTF you’re talking about when it comes to marketing.
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You're just hung up on inability to play bluetooth when anybody with common sense wouldn't want to with something that will work and sound much better over wifi.
You’re just confused about what a marketing plan entails. Though it hasn’t stopped you from trying to argue about it. Which is par for the course. Often wrong, but never in doubt.
Spin away, goofball.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 4/22/18 at 4:26 pm to TigerWise
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Look at you comparing apples to apples and oranges to oranges.
Not really because you have to jump thru hoops to play streaming services outside of Apple music on the home pod
Posted on 4/22/18 at 7:23 pm to The_Duke
I'm replying to this thread listening to spotify , on sonos. May get crazy and listen to something on Amazon music later.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 1:24 pm to ZoneLiftGMC
I saw BestBuy has dropped the Homepod's prices by 50$ so it's down to 299$ now. I *want* to want to buy 1-2 of these but I'd be more comfortable buying 2 at $400 than 2 at $600.
Just wish apple would price them and directly compete with Sonos. Right now, it's still too pricey just to mainly play music and nothing else.
Just wish apple would price them and directly compete with Sonos. Right now, it's still too pricey just to mainly play music and nothing else.
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