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Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22385 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:04 pm to
The price I pay is worth it for ad free YouTube. I watch way too much
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86768 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:13 pm to
i'm confused..i only get youtube music for the $7.99 included in google music?

how many different pricing options and products does google have here?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22385 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:23 pm to
I think right now just one.

I pay for Google Music
I get Youtube Music and Red for free.

You could also probably pay for Youtube music and get google music free also. I'm not sure what this extra stuff is.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22385 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:25 pm to
I also just read anybody with the grandfathered plan will not see any changes once youtube music takes over.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43472 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 7:08 pm to
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The price I pay is worth it for ad free YouTube. I watch way too much


+1

I was wondering when Google was going to update GPM.. guess this answers that . Whatever as long as YTM has all the same features and functionality I'm cool. As it is now, I don't use YTM ever.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22385 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 7:13 pm to
I feel gay for using GPM and YTM but y'all made me lazy

YTM is much much better at the custom playlist. It shits on the roll the dice or whatever it is called.

I hate with a passion the way you go back to the main menu on GPM. YTM has it at the bottom. I honestly can't wait for the change. I use offline music now in GPM and online with with YTM
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 7:14 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36886 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Download the YouTube Music app and see for yourself, it's completely different. You've got about a year left of Play Music.
Black background.

When the time comes, do you think they'll at least have it where you can port over your playlists and library?
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
67615 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 7:34 pm to
Yeah YTM is better in every way, it's a very welcome change I've hated the interface of GPM for awhile now both the app and desktop version.

Desktop YTM is just basically youtube so it's pretty nice.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81328 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 7:36 pm to
I downloaded yt music when I heard it'd be switching. Every song I played showed up on my regular YouTube history making it impossible to go back and find actual non music videos I just watched.
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2165 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 7:40 pm to
They are supposed to be working on a fix to this. it will be a setting in the YouTube app where ytm stuff doesn't show up
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22385 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

do you think they'll at least have it where you can port over your playlists and library?



They said they got that covered.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36886 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:03 pm to
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They said they got that covered.
So then what is the actual difference going to be? I assume they'll still have:

the same library of songs
the ability to have your own uploaded music
custom playlists

From my perspective, will it just be cosmetic?
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2165 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:36 am to
It is more for branding, YouTube is the most popular video player in the world, Google play music is relatively unknown. They feel they can compete with spotify, Pandora, etc with the YouTube brand behind them
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36886 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:37 am to
quote:

It is more for branding, YouTube is the most popular video player in the world, Google play music is relatively unknown. They feel they can compete with spotify, Pandora, etc with the YouTube brand behind them
I hope you're right. It really seems like just a marketing failure that Play Music is so obscure. It's been around longer and is better. When Apple Music debuted, people pissed themselves...when in fact, I had been enjoying something better for YEARS. Ditto Siri/Google Voice. etc. etc. Why are they so bad at being first?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86768 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:42 am to
ok i bit the bullet & did the $7.99 thing.

i know for instance there's multiple versions of 'pity for the self' on youtube by poise noire (i like lots of obscure late 80s/early 90s crap) and there was only the 'instrumental' version on google music.

sure enough, on youtube music there is also only the 'instrumental version'.

so big scrub is onto something; this does appear to be the same library.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 10:44 am
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2165 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 10:59 am to
I just searched that song on mine and had about 10 different versions under the "videos" section. Now, I've never heard of that song, so it may be the same version with just different uploaders, but they all seemed like different versions to me
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86768 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:02 am to
quote:

I just searched that song on mine and had about 10 different versions under the "videos" section.


really. hmm, i was using the 'youtube music' app on my phone. is that what you used?
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2165 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:03 am to
I completely agree, Google is awful at marketing it's services at times, but it seems they are making an effort to correct that. They put out a ton of commercials for Duo.

I think GPM was a clumsy interface also, it might have been easier for them to start over vs redesigning the GPM app. Add to it the brand of YouTube, and I think it will be successful. I have been using YouTube music since the new launch, and I love it. TMobile it about to give away one free year of Pandora plus, so I may be swapping to that soon though
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36886 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:27 am to
quote:

I think GPM was a clumsy interface also,
How so? I find it pretty fluid.

Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22385 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

so big scrub is onto something; this does appear to be the same library.


I know it is. It plays some of my one off's from my downloading days. It also uses the algorithm from GPM to choose the next songs.
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