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re: Amazon pussies whining about climate change and want to shut down Ring

Posted on 1/31/20 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 2:43 pm to
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Would be most efficient. That way you can allocate the proper resources to each

You don't run VMs for efficiency, because they are not efficient. You run VMs if you need to isolate an app/OS, or if you need the ability to move VMs around to different hardware easily.

VMs are inefficient because not only are you adding the overhead of a hypervisor, but you are also presumably running multiple full OSes. On top of that, if you don't allocate precisely the resources a particular VM needs, then the extra resources are wasted as any other VMs can't use them.

You get most of the advantages of VMs by using containers instead, like Docker. A container holds an app and all of its supporting files, so it can be moved around to different machines. They also run in isolated environments (though not as isolated as a VM). They use system resources much more efficiently since they share the host OS rather than running their own OS. This also means they spin up much faster since they don't have to boot a full OS. Also you can limit the resources available to a container, though you don't have to (in which case they will use what the host OS has available). I guess the only real downside is you can't run multiple OSes, so running something like Blue Iris on a Linux Docker host might be tricky ( though apparently that sorta works using WINE).

Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18851 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 2:55 pm to
I meant efficiency as in each resource getting it's proper resource allocation and not relying having them all under the same OS.

Hypervisor are incredibly light anyway, especially ones like Proxmox, which can run on a single thread. Plus sides to Proxmox is that it can house containers as well as full OSes, so you reap the benefits of both worlds.

And if you have a pre-prepared plan for building your virtualization, like in a basic homelab for Plex and BI, distributing resources becomes very simple. Now of course in an Enterprise environment where I have to spin up multiple VMs daily for specific SQL servers and applications that becomes a different beast, but this isn't what we're doing here
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
54916 posts
Posted on 1/31/20 at 3:43 pm to
I run VMs for efficiency in my power consumption.
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You get most of the advantages of VMs by using containers instead, like Docker.

I tried and still run Portainer, but it's just easier for me to manage within VMs for home use.
This post was edited on 1/31/20 at 3:50 pm
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16897 posts
Posted on 2/1/20 at 7:24 am to
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I mean we all have cell phones which do the exact same shite, it's hard to escape this problem.


Exactly. This is why I LOL at people who scoff at having cameras in their house but have cell phones. Hello, your cell phone has not one, but two cameras.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31802 posts
Posted on 2/1/20 at 8:48 am to
Seriously how many people actually have video or data of value on their Ring that isn’t available elsewhere?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75449 posts
Posted on 2/1/20 at 8:53 pm to
You know, you don't HAVE to have one.

Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16277 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 10:36 pm to
Google went hard in manipulating people by using memories of Loretta in their ad tonight.
Posted by hawkway
Member since Oct 2008
571 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 11:51 am to
The two topics in the OP, Climate Change and Ring, are not related. One is happening and one is a personal choice. Not looking to get into a climate change debate but this is a typical way some people like to poison the well when bringing up a topic.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86768 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 7:27 am to
wut? That's literally what happened at the meeting. Did you read the article?
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 7:29 am
Posted by hawkway
Member since Oct 2008
571 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:47 pm to
Yes I did read the article. A group of Amazon employees formed a group dedicated to climate change and one of them decided to talk about privacy issues. This doesn’t link the two issues except that they were discussed at the same event.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281853 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 9:24 am to
Ths guy doesn't know what a free society means. I bet he has no issue carrying a cell phone.
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