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re: Young Players Tracker and Americans Abroad Thread

Posted on 8/23/22 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 2:14 pm to
Roldan just had groin surgery and is put 4-6 weeks so not looking great for his World Cup hopes. I bet Tillman makes it now.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:04 pm to
Chris Richards went the full 90 for Crystal Palace in a 2-0 win over Oxford United in the Carabao Cup.

He led the backline with 5 clearances and graded out as the best defender. He was also the main guy on the ball when playing it out of the back.
Posted by Alyosha
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 7:57 pm to
Good, hate those filthy buggers.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:01 pm to
Djordje following in the footsteps of Jozy and Bacon.

His transfer to AZ is official.

Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:38 pm to
Good move for him. Maybe stay there a few years and see if he can make it in a big five league.
Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:17 pm to
Love the Eredivisie for developing offensive players (although based on the examples of Jozy and Bacon perhaps that belief is misplaced).
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 2:53 pm to
Jozy was a beast in the Eredivisie. Sunderland was just a terrible fit. If you look at that godawful team though they did much better statistically when he was on the field than when he was not. I wish we had prime Jozy back. I always expected him to be in play for this cycle and was surprised at how fast he dropped off.
Posted by lionward2014
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:21 pm to
Tilman with some beautiful pressing to win the ball in the box, and then dipped it off for an easy assist.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:56 pm to
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Jozy and Bacon perhaps that belief is misplaced).


Like cwill said, Jozy was a terrible fit for the shitshow that was Sunderland. As for Bacon, he never really got a chance at Bremen because his body fell apart.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:02 pm to
Tillman assist from pressuring a defender
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You know Gregg is loving this

Also sands looks like a lock to make the September camp. He was an easy MOTM choice for Rangers’ qualifier against PSV. The announcers couldn’t stop raving about him.
Posted by SCP
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:12 pm to
Both Tillman and Sands are major reasons that Rangers will be playing in Champions league this year!

As you said, Sands was a rock in the back.

Tillman was all over the midfield. He set up several shots in addition to his steal and assist play. He also had a nice left footed shot on goal in the second half requiring a diving save by the keeper.
Posted by lionward2014
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:28 pm to
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Both Tillman and Sands are major reasons that Rangers will be playing in Champions league this year!


I've been watching all their qualifiers and those two are looking to be two crucial pieces of that team. Tilman had another really good chance a couple minutes after his assist.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:37 pm to
I’ve been watching every rangers game too just because of those two guys and I’ve been really impressed by both. This is honestly the first time I’ve come away thinking Sands could play for the USMNT. His decision making and distribution is pretty solid. Prior to watching these qualifiers I didn’t even realize he was going to be a starter for them this year.
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 4:38 pm
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:00 pm to
I didn't get to see it.

Did Sands play in the back or as a #6?
Posted by Girth Donor
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 5:09 pm to
Center half next to Goldson
Posted by Alyosha
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 6:39 pm to
Did anyone see how Dest played?
Posted by NewbombII
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 7:46 pm to
He only entered the friendly at the 81st minute. No I didn't watch.
Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:06 pm to
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Jozy was a beast in the Eredivisie.


He was a beast in the Eredivisie.

But the Eredivisie is a developmental league and neither Jozy nor Bacon developed the ability to play in a better league than the Eredivisie. It was the pinnacle of each players career.

There are plenty of reasons why that may have been the case but the simple fact is neither were able to step up in class from the Eredivisie.
Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:11 pm to
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Tillman was all over the midfield.


This game was the first time I ever really watched Tillman. Is he locked into representing the US and is there any concern about a switch to Germany. He was very impressive.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:16 pm to
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There are plenty of reasons why that may have been the case but the simple fact is neither were able to step up in class from the Eredivisie.



No one is disputing that.

But I think their reasons for not ever latching on to a top league was more due to circumstance compared to them being shite talents.

During that era (meaning before Euro clubs were signing American teenagers to their academies), fit was very important when it comes to Americans make the transition and surviving overseas.

Jozy was a more complete striker than both Wynalda and McBride, but injuries and volatile club situations fricked him up.
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