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re: World Cup draw - Official discussion thread
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:39 am to JLock
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:39 am to JLock
The Ivorians have failed to impress at any major tournament during their so-called Golden Generation. Yaya Touré is obviously one of the best midfielders in the world, but their defense is average at best. They've also been huge chokers against mid-level competition in the African Cup of Nations.
Belgium, and Colombia for the same reason, is anyone's guess at this point. It's really hard to get an idea of how well a country will fare without any player's with real major international tournament experience.
We pulled out a draw against Russia in Russia last year, but that was a weird game all around. Russia has been really sporadic with their results of late. Dominate Portugal, lose to Northern Ireland. Destroy the Czech Republic, look inept against an only slightly less inept Greece during Euro 2012.
Just Drew the same:
Belgium
USA
Ivory Coast
Russia
Belgium, and Colombia for the same reason, is anyone's guess at this point. It's really hard to get an idea of how well a country will fare without any player's with real major international tournament experience.
We pulled out a draw against Russia in Russia last year, but that was a weird game all around. Russia has been really sporadic with their results of late. Dominate Portugal, lose to Northern Ireland. Destroy the Czech Republic, look inept against an only slightly less inept Greece during Euro 2012.
Just Drew the same:
Belgium
USA
Ivory Coast
Russia
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Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:39 am to etm512
So how do the make the 8 groups for the world cup? Do they just randomly take one team from each of the 4 groups and place them in the 8 WC groups?
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:41 am to jsk020
Yep
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:45 am to Broski
I hope there will be some live stream other than ESPN that I can watch while at work this Friday
Posted on 12/3/13 at 10:56 am to etm512
Why other than ESPN? There soccer coverage is always great.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 11:12 am to Broski
Cant watch it at work. A Youtube stream would be ideal
Posted on 12/3/13 at 11:19 am to JLock
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I don't know, I'm honestly terrified of Belgium and I think they'll do better than Germany next summer.
I am the biggest Belgium homer on this board, and even I think I this is crazy talk. If this World Cup was in Europe, Germany would be the clear favorite.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 7:31 pm to SwaggerCopter
Personally I thinks it stinks that the USA ranked 13th at the time, can't be in a group with any asian or concacaf teams at all, I can see the concacaf teams but why should we not have a few strong teams like France , portugal and Engand in our pot ?
CROOKED AZZ FIFA.
CROOKED AZZ FIFA.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 7:59 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
What?
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:05 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
The USA has a joke of a qualifying group. We deserve the shitty pot. I would rather be in the bad pot in the World Cup than have to fight through UEFA.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:14 pm to SwaggerCopter
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The USA has a joke of a qualifying group.
US, Mexico, Costa Rica or Honduras would finish top 4 out of 5 out of Asia at the moment. Only Japan would be a contender. South Korea used to own that region, no longer. Australia is a joke.
This post was edited on 12/3/13 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:53 pm to SwaggerCopter
Why not have 4 pots, 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 24-32.
Because then FIFA couldn't play games with the draw.
If you don't know that by now you never will.
Does anyone think the Swiss are a top 8 team.
Portugal arw not 5 as they sit now, even though they missed the top 8 seed.
Israel played them twice, I watched both games, they are not a top 5 team.
My final 4 will be Brazil, Germany, Argentina and a longshot team like USA, Belgum ( not really longshot , in name only ) Bosnia, or an African nation, I feel this is the WC that an up and coming team breaks through.
England & Fraace are crap.
Because then FIFA couldn't play games with the draw.
If you don't know that by now you never will.
Does anyone think the Swiss are a top 8 team.
Portugal arw not 5 as they sit now, even though they missed the top 8 seed.
Israel played them twice, I watched both games, they are not a top 5 team.
My final 4 will be Brazil, Germany, Argentina and a longshot team like USA, Belgum ( not really longshot , in name only ) Bosnia, or an African nation, I feel this is the WC that an up and coming team breaks through.
England & Fraace are crap.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:01 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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Why not have 4 pots, 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 24-32.
That would be a hell of a lot more rigged that doing it by confederation.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:24 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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Why not have 4 pots, 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 24-32. . . . Does anyone think the Swiss are a top 8 team.
The main problem this time is how they are arriving at the 1-8 seeds.
They just used the current October FIFA rankings and those computer rankings always have a lot of weird outliers in any given month.
In the past, there has been some method in place to correct outliers: FIFA rankings being averaged out over a longer period of time and, more importantly, being weighted by teams' actual performance in actual recent competitive tournaments.
This would still be a tough WC but getting Netherlands and Italy into the first pot -- where they would have been using all previous methods -- would have helped immensely.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 11:45 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
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I'm fully prepared to type THANKS OBAMA many times once we get arse raped by the draw.
But the world loves us now since we have Obama.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:00 am to Ellis Dee
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:38 am to glassman
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Australia is a joke.
Australia could be good by the end of the next cycle. Their problem right now is that they've got a few good old players (Kewell, Cahill, etc.) and a ton of players in the 17-20 year range that they're banking on becoming good.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 9:45 am to Wait For It...
In this thread 
If we are in a group with Ghana and Italy, I'm going to take a nap on the train tracks.
If we are in a group with Ghana and Italy, I'm going to take a nap on the train tracks.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 9:50 am to NawlinsTiger9
I hope we get a rematch with England
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