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Why is it that USMNT players seem to make wild & un-directed passes
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:25 pm
most of the time? It seems very obvious that we make all these panicky over-excessive passes with no direction while our latest opponents seem dribble for a second more and find a good pass route.
I am the only one noticing this?
I am the only one noticing this?
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:30 pm to Shane4689
1. They aren't Arsenal or Spain
2. Lack world class talent
3. Both of the above
2. Lack world class talent
3. Both of the above
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:30 pm to Shane4689
I think guys look for the home run ball too often instead of the short pass. Sometimes it comes down to keeping shape and off the ball guys giving each other angles to pass.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:44 pm to rdw1690
I think it's still in our USMNT dna to play the long ball and let our strikers run on to it and hope the defense makes a mistake.
It's won us so many CONFACAF games in the past that we just can't seem to shake it from our style of play.
It's won us so many CONFACAF games in the past that we just can't seem to shake it from our style of play.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:01 pm to Shane4689
It's very frustrating watching every opponent string together so many passes, or just dominate possession every single game. As of now, I'm just banking on our u-17 and u-20 guys to rule the future.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:19 pm to cheesesteak501
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I'm just banking on our u-17 and u-20 guys to rule the future.
I'd assume U.S. Soccer is also banking on our youth squads to be the future as well.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:24 pm to McCaigBro69
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I'd assume U.S. Soccer is also banking on our youth squads to be the future as well.
Funny brah. I just hope that all the young guys we have that are playing for some big name clubs can really change our image.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:28 pm to McCaigBro69
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I think guys look for the home run ball too often instead of the short pass. Sometimes it comes down to keeping shape and off the ball guys giving each other angles to pass.
Those Bradley coaching tactics are still in this team's DNA. ??
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:45 pm to MUMFORD
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Those Bradley coaching tactics are still in this team's DNA. ??
Or maybe Jurgen's tactics aren't that different from Bradley's.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:53 pm to Shane4689
In my mind, it has everything to do with how athletes grow up here. Every few months, kids are switching to a different sport, and if they are playing sports on their own, it's usually basketball, baseball, etc. Most other countries are mad for the sport. Kids are out playing soccer day after day. American footballers just don't have the same development experience as footballer elsewhere. It's just a different culture. It's similar to how we destroy at basketball and American football. That's what our athletes are playing or dreaming of playing as a career. They grow up wanting to be footballing phenoms. Not to mention, the youth academies give players early exposure to high levels of competition and professionalism. The US, on the other, hand has had a very comfortable football culture up until recently. Outside of Mexico, we haven't had too much competition in our neck of the woods for quite some time, and the frenetic pace of play against bigger European clubs shows that we're still working on confidence. We are starting to aspire to more than just being a scrappy tournament team, which is something we needed to accept and work to change. Until we start taking development of youth from a young age much more seriously, though, any transition away from this kind of play is going to be dreadfully slow. We just don't set our players up to be world class.
Obviously, there are some who still succeed in spite of all of this, but the style of play seems to be the result of that. You have your Dempseys, Donovans, and Bradleys, but they're special players who we're going to struggle to replace. The US plays a very physical, aggressive style of football, which fits right in with the sports that are popular here. Our identity is just plain scrappy.
Realistically, though, we're just starting to see how much of a boost the '94 World Cup and MLS gave us with this generation that's on the way out. With the explosion of the sport here mixed with the success of things like FIFA games and Men in Blazers, I think we're prepped for a real shift in style and quality moving forward once this generation of fans get older and play or get their kids in on it.
Obviously, there are some who still succeed in spite of all of this, but the style of play seems to be the result of that. You have your Dempseys, Donovans, and Bradleys, but they're special players who we're going to struggle to replace. The US plays a very physical, aggressive style of football, which fits right in with the sports that are popular here. Our identity is just plain scrappy.
Realistically, though, we're just starting to see how much of a boost the '94 World Cup and MLS gave us with this generation that's on the way out. With the explosion of the sport here mixed with the success of things like FIFA games and Men in Blazers, I think we're prepped for a real shift in style and quality moving forward once this generation of fans get older and play or get their kids in on it.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:54 pm to Shane4689
Just be careful what you wish for. Spurs under AVB could pass all day. We never actually threatened in the final third though. It was absolutely the most frustrating thing to watch. Absolutely miserable. Dominate possession and never have a single thing to cheer for.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:01 pm to Broski
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Or maybe Jurgen's tactics aren't that different from Bradley's.
When it comes down to crunch time, they're not much different. Like I said before, we're a scrappy, scavenger team. It's just the way this team has played for as long as I can remember.
Jurgen does attempt to force the team to play out of their comfort zones, though. I think that we're in the terrible position of being "almost there". We have class in the squad, but the gap between the good and bad is large. We've got the leaders, but we struggle to bring in people to match that quality. I do think that the pool has improved a ton and continues to improve, but I just don't think we're built for much else in terms of style just yet. The fact that Michael Bradley's playing in an advanced position says all that really needs to be said.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:08 pm to Tigertown in ATL
quote:Lol at any scum being world class talent.
Arsenal
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:04 pm to Shane4689
Mediocre talent, perplexing tactics at times, and Brek Shea is still dons a USMNT jersey. That should cover it. 
Actually, I have been disappointed in our fitness recently. I always felt like we had world class fitness going into Brazil.
Actually, I have been disappointed in our fitness recently. I always felt like we had world class fitness going into Brazil.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:52 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Actually, I have been disappointed in our fitness recently. I always felt like we had world class fitness going into Brazil.
Timmy Chandler needs to stop smoking. He always looks like he's barely going to make it towards the end of the game.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 7:18 am to Vicks Kennel Club
The amount of muscle injuries we had in Brazil was more troubling than anything
Posted on 4/2/15 at 7:41 am to CapitalCityDevil
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ArsenalLol at any scum being world class talent.
Nice objectivity. How many of Arsenal's field players would start for the USMNT? Minimum of 9.
Idiot.
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 7:42 am
Posted on 4/2/15 at 8:37 am to etm512
We knew the climate and travel schedule would be brutal, but we were not adequately prepared. That was unacceptable.
Brad Davis was so damn slow that he struggled to stay on the TV screen.
Brad Davis was so damn slow that he struggled to stay on the TV screen.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:49 am to Vicks Kennel Club
Hopefully guys like Pulisic and Zelalem playing in the midfield down the road will bolster our ability to link up from the back to front. Those two have a lot of potential, though Pulisic could end up playing forward. Zelalem is already a pretty damn good passer. I don't think either have "world class" potential but it's conceivable that they both end up in the tier right below that.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:31 pm to MUMFORD
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Those Bradley coaching tactics are still in this team's DNA. ??
Not really.
We suck at defending, set pieces (on both ends) and counterattacking now.
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