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re: What would you do if the US ever won a World Cup?

Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:00 pm to
However, most of the guys playing for the US at that level have also been approached by Mexico, and they've told Mexico to eat shite
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:39 pm to
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I would fly to whatever country we beat and walk around with a US kit on and carry around a plastic replica of the trophy. Also, I think I'd go to London too.



This. And I think I would take "ugly American" to new levels.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:42 pm to
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I just fricking hate bandwagoners


If they were Canadians who suddenly started cheering for the USA when we win the WC, I could see calling them bamdwagoners. But it's Americans cheering for America. That's not bandwagoning.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:13 pm to
Yeah, but calling soccer a fig sport and then joining the party only when we win is still douchbaggery at its finest.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:33 pm to
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I kind of get his point


Everyone does. People here just like to act like douches sometimes.

The white Europeans, and even the black slaves, and their ancestors built this country to what it is today and represent America. Not the offspring of illegal border jumpers who can't, and often won't, speak English who came to this country for the free handouts and health care that the aforementioned have to pay for.

*Yes I know this doesn't apply to all Hispanics but it's easily a high enough percentage to warrant the distaste people have for them and what they are doing to our country.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:35 pm to
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However, most of the guys playing for the US at that level have also been approached by Mexico, and they've told Mexico to eat shite


LOL. That's hilarious. The lack of objectivity when dealing with the USMNT on this board is incredible.
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 10:36 pm
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:35 pm to
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Yeah, but calling soccer a fig sport and then joining the party only when we win is still douchbaggery at its finest.



I kige that.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:36 pm to
Wait. You're actually being serious with this shite?
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:38 pm to
Of course.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:41 pm to
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The white Europeans, and even the black slaves, and their ancestors built this country to what it is today and represent America. Not the offspring of illegal border jumpers who can't, and often won't, speak English who came to this country for the free handouts and health care that the aforementioned have to pay for.

*Yes I know this doesn't apply to all Hispanics but it's easily a high enough percentage to warrant the distaste people have for them and what they are doing to our country.


fricking disgusting. Our country wouldn't function without immigrants. Illegal immigrants have provided more for this country than they have taken away from it.

Furthermore, if you look at any recent statistic, you will see that whites hold nearly 3 times as many welfare recipients as Hispanics do.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:42 pm to
We're talking about the U20s, not Edgar Castillo
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:44 pm to
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*Yes I know this doesn't apply to all Hispanics but it's easily a high enough percentage to warrant the distaste people have for them and what they are doing to our country.

This is very sad.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:45 pm to
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llegal immigrants have provided more for this country than they have taken away from it.


:rotflmao:

I'll gladly trade looking at my neighbors unmanicured lawn or clogged gutters to get our school system and health care reform out of the toilet.

Seriously, where do you guys live? Clearly not in areas where you have to deal with these people or see what kind of strain they put on the areas they infiltrate.
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:58 pm to
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LOL. That's hilarious. The lack of objectivity when dealing with the USMNT on this board is incredible.


Are you referring to us hating Giuseppe Rossi?

If you can't see how that is different, then you really are a flaming idiot.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:58 pm to
I don't expect to have a reasonable conversation with you about it.

Illegal immigration undoubtedly hurts the economy in many ways. I won't begin to try to deny that. Especially, like you said, when it comes to using public services. Hispanic communities often have high crime rates as well.

However, our country was built by immigrants. Many were brought here as slaves, and many came illegally.

In modern times, most illegal immigrants complement skilled laborers quite well actually. You'd be surprised how much easier they have made your life, though I don't expect you to admit it. They really only directly compete with individuals who don't hold a high school diploma. An entirely separate topic.

You can do some research yourself on the topic. Illegal immigrants have had positive effects on the areas where they are most prominent. Skilled laborers make more on average in those areas, progress is more efficient and they are allowed to work more hours.

They have a positive effect on the economy. And that continually grows. An economist will tell you that.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:00 pm to
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Are you referring to us hating Giuseppe Rossi?



Everything.

The Rossi situation isn't really applicable to the Mexicans but certainly is to the Germans. The only thing is Rossi was actually good enough to have a choice. At least he didn't use the USA as a backup plan like a lot of other guys.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:07 pm to
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The Rossi situation isn't really applicable to the Mexicans but certainly is to the Germans. The only thing is Rossi was actually good enough to have a choice. At least he didn't use the USA as a backup plan like a lot of other guys.


I'm sure he would have if Italy turned him away, in fact there is no doubt in my mind.

Until news comes out that says Boyd, Fab Johnson, Williams all had Germany interested in them but they told them "frick no, I'm going play for a country that I have never really been to", it is to be assumed that the German Federation had no interest in them. These guys just want to play international soccer, and if their home country doesn't want them, what is wrong with them wanting to play for the country that does want them if they have some generational connection to it?

Rossi was fricking born in the US, is a self-described "Jersey Boy" and "American", the USSF wanted him and he said no.

That's a totally different and more fricked up situation.

Gringo Torres, Corona, Herc and all of the hispanic heritage guys on the U-# teams were born in America, therefor, are American before Mexican.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:08 pm to
But, the thing is, is that at that level, the US isn't a backup plan for high profile players like Luis Gil and Jose Villarreal. U20 teams call in basically everyone who might contribute, and their search is much more expansive because of the age restrictions. Roster spots aren't nearly as competitive relative to roster spots at the full international level.

You might have a point with most of the Germans. You might have a point with players like Edgar Castillo. You don't have a point with a number of players from our U20 team
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83390 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:11 pm to
If we are really going to do this, Savage should hate guys like Stu Holden, Kljestan, Feilhaber (was actually born in Brazil), Jozy, etc.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:25 pm to
Guys, quit wasting your time on this a-hole.

Although I have to admit that him blaming the Mexicans for our fricked up healthcare system and school systems is just hilarious. Yeah, if we moved all the illegals out of the country those things would magically fix themselves
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