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What will it take for Everton to be top 5 in the BPL

Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Ponchytiger11
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:08 pm
With Lukaku most likely heading out but a promising new manager at the helm with a soon-to-be new stadium in the mix, what players or moves should they consider to be a realistic contender?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:16 pm to
Some Arab king needs to buy the club for that to happen.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

What will it take for Everton to be top 5 in the BPL



Oil money
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:24 pm to
Don't they have Chinese money now?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:25 pm to
No some Iranian. Unless you are talking about selling Leighton Baines to some Chinese club or something.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:31 pm to
I guess they were rumored to get Chinese money, then I saw they got a new owner, and I assumed it was Chinese.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:51 pm to
Need to be largely rebuilt.

I don't think it would take a ton for EFC to slip into top 5 in a given year (5 finishes of 5-7 in the last 7 seasons). But it's a much bigger gap to BE top 5.

Stay with me on an analogy...I write a lot as an attorney. Often I get decent work from subordinate attorneys and then try to craft that into what I'm looking for. Sometimes, even after I pour effort into it and insert a lot of really good pieces/arguments, it still just doesn't "work," for me overall. It lacks cohesion, and while it contains quality in places, it's piecemeal.

I see Everton the same right now. You've got the lingering pieces from 2 managers hanging around, combined with rising academy players, combined with stop gap players, combined with "build around" players, combined with "he's good cover or value" players, etc. It's a jumble, with some talent and overall a generally competitive outcome, but that just lacks the overall theme/cohesiveness/strategy that I think would be necessary for EFC make the jump.

We should have the money such that we can blow it up in large part and stay relatively in the same results position (with goal that the rebuild product will have more upside for the future), but it's yet to be seen whether that will happen, IMO.

I think this issue applies to everyone, but I think it's much harder when you're doing it with fewer resources and brand appeal. Meaning, you can have philosophical turnover at the top, and weather it more easily, when you've already got elite players and have the money and clout to easily swap them for other elite players needed for a particular scheme.


Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:28 pm to
They finished 4th in 2005 and 5th just 3 years ago. To do it consistently will always be tough but they actually have the financial resources now that they didn't even have 3 years ago. (Plus selling Rom will reel in a shite ton of cash).

Some nice young players, smart buys (Funes Mori, Gana, Lookman, Mirallas), and some good experienced players. I think they'll push for 5-6 this year depending on how they handle Europe.
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:25 pm to
Lukaku is one of the least valuable 20 goal a year strikers I've ever seen
Posted by NamariTiger
Flower Mound, Texas
Member since Jun 2014
17746 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:06 pm to
Tim Howard's beard
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:15 pm to
I thought it was a Thai guy, hence the Thai sponsor.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:10 pm to
it would take:

Man utd, Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea to join another league. Then maybe they could fight for 3rd or 4th.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 6:23 pm to
what a funny joke you made
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 8:55 pm to
We are getting rid of the Thai sponsor, unfortunately, at least on the jerseys. The new majority owner is from Iran but I believe he mostly grew up in England. He is already increasing our investment and we finally have some plans for a new stadium.

There have been a lot of promises made about spending in the transfer market, but its too early to tell what kind of effect he will have there.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173817 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:19 pm to
It's so nice to have legit dudes come through the academy. Looking at you Tom.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:17 am to
We're going to overhype the shite out of Davies and turn him into Barkley
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:28 am to
quote:

The new majority owner is from Iran but I believe he mostly grew up in England.


SirWinstons head just exploded
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:33 am to
quote:

We're going to overhype the shite out of Davies and turn him into Barkley

I was just going to say as long as he doesn't go full Barkley.

I like his chances to keep his head on straight better under Koeman than under Bobby
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 11:34 am
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173817 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:36 am to
He seems a tad more grounded.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:48 am to
He just needs to go back to the hobo Jesus look and he'll be fine
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