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What position for Geoff Cameron be most advantageous for the US?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 4:30 pm
According to this interview he thinks his best positions are defensive midfielder and centerback. Discuss.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 4:38 pm to cwil177
I like him as the holding midfield with Bradley but I don't like our RB options so I would prefer him there
Posted on 5/1/14 at 4:49 pm to uway
Why would Jermaine Jones be on Pepe, unless it's corner kicks?
Oh yeah that's right, he has no defensive positioning.
I think Cameron ever playing at CB for us requires two things:
1. Timmy Chandler has to be healthy
2. Our other CB options have to be vastly inferior.
Oh yeah that's right, he has no defensive positioning.
I think Cameron ever playing at CB for us requires two things:
1. Timmy Chandler has to be healthy
2. Our other CB options have to be vastly inferior.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 4:54 pm to cwil177
I'd be ok with Parkhurst as the RB if Cameron is needed in the middle.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 4:59 pm to cwil177
Would like to see how a pairing of beckerman and cameron as the holding CM's would work. Bradley needs to be the CAM, we just go to a whole different level offensively when we he plays there.
Have Dempsey at LM cheating inside to link up play with bradley and Altidore/Johannson. Zusi at RM playing wide and getting crosses in.
Hell I'd be willing to put Johannson in Dempsey's spot, as stated above, and play dempsey at ST.
Leaves us vulnerable on the counter but gives us best opportunity to score goals while still keeping two CM's in front of our young CB's.
ETA: Jones is the most annoying player in our pool. Touch is terrible. Provides nothing going forward and he is always turning the ball over in the middle of the pitch. Do not want.
ETA part deux: I love having Cameron on the pitch to start the game because his versatility gives you lots of options with subs to react to the game situation.
Have Dempsey at LM cheating inside to link up play with bradley and Altidore/Johannson. Zusi at RM playing wide and getting crosses in.
Hell I'd be willing to put Johannson in Dempsey's spot, as stated above, and play dempsey at ST.
Leaves us vulnerable on the counter but gives us best opportunity to score goals while still keeping two CM's in front of our young CB's.
ETA: Jones is the most annoying player in our pool. Touch is terrible. Provides nothing going forward and he is always turning the ball over in the middle of the pitch. Do not want.
ETA part deux: I love having Cameron on the pitch to start the game because his versatility gives you lots of options with subs to react to the game situation.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 5:05 pm to uway
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I'd be ok with Parkhurst as the RB if Cameron is needed in the middle.
DMB at LB and Fabian at RB is another option there
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:09 pm to Harry Pitts
Honestly I would be ok with Dempsey at LM because that's where he scored the majority of his goals for Fulham. Fab is good enough at LB to cover for Dempsey's lack of defensive work, I think.
I love Bradley at CAM. No ifs ands or buts about it. As evidenced by the Panama game and the Mexico friendly, if we have positionally disciplined DMs who allow Bradley the freedom to go up top, our attack becomes so much more dynamic. And he's a scoring threat. I'm not kidding- every time I see Bradley played forward like that... it moves. And not just a little bit.
I agree with the Jones sentiment, and I think most people here do too (except maybe Hendo). His passing #s are atrocious. Beckerman completes his passes and doesn't give the ball away, stays positionally disciplined, and cycles possession, which is exactly what we need. His speed is his biggest question mark.
I would be ok playing Jones with Beckerman in the 2 of the 4-2-3-1 because 1. we know Jones is a starter and 2. because Beckerman will stay back, which mitigates some of Jones' craziness. It's a shame, really, because I think if Jones just held put at the destroyer role our team could reach another level.
I love Bradley at CAM. No ifs ands or buts about it. As evidenced by the Panama game and the Mexico friendly, if we have positionally disciplined DMs who allow Bradley the freedom to go up top, our attack becomes so much more dynamic. And he's a scoring threat. I'm not kidding- every time I see Bradley played forward like that... it moves. And not just a little bit.
I agree with the Jones sentiment, and I think most people here do too (except maybe Hendo). His passing #s are atrocious. Beckerman completes his passes and doesn't give the ball away, stays positionally disciplined, and cycles possession, which is exactly what we need. His speed is his biggest question mark.
I would be ok playing Jones with Beckerman in the 2 of the 4-2-3-1 because 1. we know Jones is a starter and 2. because Beckerman will stay back, which mitigates some of Jones' craziness. It's a shame, really, because I think if Jones just held put at the destroyer role our team could reach another level.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:15 pm to uway
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I'd be ok with Parkhurst as the RB if Cameron is needed in the middle.
The thought of Ronaldo running at Parkhurst gives me the liquid shits.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 6:22 pm to cwil177
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His passing #s are atrocious.
And really irrelevant when comparing him to most of the other CMs in the pool. For all of the deserved shite he got for running around like a psychopath in the first half of the Costa Rica game, let's not forget that Geoff Cameron didn't really bother to complete a forward pass, and probably couldn't have if he tried
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:37 pm to joey barton
Saying that's irrelevant is absurd. Of course it's relevant. We can't afford for a midfielder to have a 60% pass completion rate.
But you're totally right about Cameron not being able to complete a forward pass.
Just kidding.
But you're totally right about Cameron not being able to complete a forward pass.
Just kidding.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:46 pm to cwil177
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We can't afford for a midfielder to have a 60% pass completion rate.
Irrelevant was strong, but not incredibly meaningful probably isn't, or at least meaningless without context. If that 40% is him hitting 60 yard diagonal balls that don't put us under a significant amount of pressure when they don't come off, it's not that big of a deal. We're not going to pass Germany or Portugal to death, so I don't really give a shite about it.
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But you're totally right about Cameron not being able to complete a forward pass.
The difference between the two games being that he was actually closed down and put under pressure in the Costa Rica game.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:16 pm to joey barton
Are we talking about the game where we didn't have Bradley?
Also, JJ's passes were mostly sideways or short passes forwards. I really wish I could find the map of it. Definitely worse than bombing 60 yard balls down field to no one, since it puts us on the back foot and leaves us exposed defensively. He had an absolutely amazing pass in his first game playing for us against Poland to spring Jozy for a goal. He also had a good one for Clint's goal in that shite show in Honduras. Other than that he's been disappointing with his passing.
Also, JJ's passes were mostly sideways or short passes forwards. I really wish I could find the map of it. Definitely worse than bombing 60 yard balls down field to no one, since it puts us on the back foot and leaves us exposed defensively. He had an absolutely amazing pass in his first game playing for us against Poland to spring Jozy for a goal. He also had a good one for Clint's goal in that shite show in Honduras. Other than that he's been disappointing with his passing.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:22 pm to Sheep
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The thought of Ronaldo running at Parkhurst gives me the liquid shits.
Pankhurst just seems reliable to me. Maybe I'm overrating him, and I definitely would rather Cameron against Ronaldo.
This is probably all academic at this point. I can't imagine Cameron not playing RB for us this summer. I just wonder if someone else (Ream) can take Gonzales's spot at CB.
Who is our best right midfielder when it comes to helping on defense? Zusi, Bedoya?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:28 pm to cwil177
Yeah
As they're going to be, but no one was having a particularly great time even doing that, and while the 60 yard diagonal ball was hyperbolic, he plays a lot of very difficult passes forward, which I don't particularly have a problem with.
Correct.
In that game particularly, I had a much bigger problem with some of the absolutely retarded shite he tried tried to do in dangerous areas when he didn't decide to pass the ball.
Here's the chalkboard
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Also, JJ's passes were mostly sideways or short passes forwards.
As they're going to be, but no one was having a particularly great time even doing that, and while the 60 yard diagonal ball was hyperbolic, he plays a lot of very difficult passes forward, which I don't particularly have a problem with.
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since it puts us on the back foot and leaves us exposed defensively.
Correct.
In that game particularly, I had a much bigger problem with some of the absolutely retarded shite he tried tried to do in dangerous areas when he didn't decide to pass the ball.
Here's the chalkboard
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:46 pm to cwil177
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Saying that's irrelevant is absurd. Of course it's relevant. We can't afford for a midfielder to have a 60% pass completion rate. But you're totally right about Cameron not being able to complete a forward pass.
JJ would have most likely put that pass into the third row behind goal. He just seems to fall I love with trying to pick out a wing 40 yards down away...which is not a bad option once maybe twice a game.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:03 pm to uway
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Ream
O dear God please no.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:03 pm to cwil177
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What position for Geoff Cameron be most advantageous for the US?
Right now, if Chandler is healthy and chosen for the team, the best use of Cameron for the team in 2014 is CB. Teaming him with Besler seems like the most favorable CB pairing for this gauntlet ahead. Gonzales and Goodson are not World Cup starters while Brooks will be but not right now.
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:49 am to Jwho77
I think I agree with you.
Ream, you mean that guy playing in the Championship (ie better than MLS) who just got Bolton's player of the year award? That guy who also plays LB and CB and DM and therefore fills several needs?
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O dear God please no.
Ream, you mean that guy playing in the Championship (ie better than MLS) who just got Bolton's player of the year award? That guy who also plays LB and CB and DM and therefore fills several needs?
Posted on 5/2/14 at 6:19 am to cwil177
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