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re: Weekend match thread: tGOAT returns
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:11 am to Floyd Dawg
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:11 am to Floyd Dawg
I'm an ex ref. Not professionally, but club and HS. I agree with everyone on here saying it was offside.
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Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:12 am to bbap
quote:honestly, the flag should’ve went up as soon as he started running with the ball, he was a few yards offsides.
eta: Had Rashford, knowing he was offside, pulled up his run early that would be one thing. But he legit took 5 or so paces with the ball under his feet.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:13 am to saderade
quote:
honestly, the flag should’ve went up as soon as he started running with the ball, he was a few yards offsides
This is how I saw it as well. Have seen the flag go up for similar runs all the time. Clear offsides IMO.
Edit: the original call should have stood. No clue how it got overturned.
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 9:15 am
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:13 am to saderade
The flag did go up.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:14 am to saderade
quote:
honestly, the flag should’ve went up as soon as he started running with the ball, he was a few yards offsides.
I agree. They've gone too far with the "let it play on and sort it out later/put your flag up after the play has finished".
I get it on close ones, but he was well off.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:15 am to bbap
If this call didn’t stand to benefit United I would 100% be saying it was a bull shite call, but it benefits us so excellent call ref!!
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:17 am to LuckySo-n-So
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They couldn’t “make a play” on the ball because it was under Rashford’s feet, between his legs. No whistle. No flag. The custom since VAR is to play it through and sort it out after. Why risk a penalty by sticking your foot in and possibly tripping him in the box? You don’t commit a penalty because you think the guy is offsides.
With this reasoning every defender on the pitch was obstructed.
Like I said Akanji was running diagonal away from the ball and Walker was the opposite side of Fernandez, who he would have had to go thru to get the ball.
Goalies constantly have offside attackers in their box and are never given that call.
ETA: if Akanji would have made the slightest attempt on the ball I'd would 100% say offsides. But he has got to be physically obstructed not mentally distracted by what he considers should be called.
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 9:23 am
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:25 am to bbap
I’m currently certified, including doing semi-professional matches, and it’s the correct decision under the current interpretation.
The concept of “interfering” is a high bar to clear and gets harder and harder to clear as the skill level of the players advances. In a youth game, this is probably called offside and nobody argues either way. At this level, every benefit is given to the attacking team.
I referee a youth game VERY differently that I officiate a semi-professional match.
The concept of “interfering” is a high bar to clear and gets harder and harder to clear as the skill level of the players advances. In a youth game, this is probably called offside and nobody argues either way. At this level, every benefit is given to the attacking team.
I referee a youth game VERY differently that I officiate a semi-professional match.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:27 am to Floyd Dawg
How is that not a card for high boot on Solly March?
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 9:33 am
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:28 am to RandySavage
I’ll put my soccer resume up against yours anytime (playing and officiating).
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:35 am to Floyd Dawg
From a PRO referee that I have worked with in the past-
This is the perfect example of "KEEP PLAYING!" for defenders. Had Akanji kept running hard and made a play, we'd have a MUCH STRONGER argument for Interfering with an Opponent.
As it stands, we have a deliberate action and it's near the ball. But arguably (for this level of play) NOT sufficiently "near the opponent". I think this could've gone either way, and I think at a level of play that most of us are dealing with we would expect this to be called as "interfering with an opponent". But at this level of play, I appreciate why it's "grayer", and certainly the default with offside is "if it's ambiguous, don't call it". Good patience by the AR.
This is the perfect example of "KEEP PLAYING!" for defenders. Had Akanji kept running hard and made a play, we'd have a MUCH STRONGER argument for Interfering with an Opponent.
As it stands, we have a deliberate action and it's near the ball. But arguably (for this level of play) NOT sufficiently "near the opponent". I think this could've gone either way, and I think at a level of play that most of us are dealing with we would expect this to be called as "interfering with an opponent". But at this level of play, I appreciate why it's "grayer", and certainly the default with offside is "if it's ambiguous, don't call it". Good patience by the AR.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:35 am to Floyd Dawg
Felt like posting this bad boy again
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:43 am to Floyd Dawg
quote:
the default with offside is "if it's ambiguous, don't call it"
How can you honestly say it’s ambiguous? I think that’s what is so bothersome. ITS SO frickING OBVIOUS.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:44 am to LuckySo-n-So
Liverpool got saved by offsides
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:45 am to LuckySo-n-So
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ITS SO frickING OBVIOUS.
Alright pipe down. Controversial call sure, but going as far as saying it’s so obvious that Rashford is interfering is just wrong. No evidence from the way the players are running / positioned that the play would’ve been any different had rashford not been there.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:46 am to Floyd Dawg
quote:
This is the perfect example of "KEEP PLAYING!" for defenders.
That’s what I thought as well. You play till the whistle and not presume. Hate it when defenders throw up their arm playing sideline ref.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:49 am to Alyosha
Liverpool look absolutely dreadful. Feel like we’ve had the ball in Brighton’s half for maybe 2 minutes all half. There is no way this squad is finishing top 4
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:50 am to bless u boys
quote:I believe after the goal went in. It should have been blown dead.
The flag did go up.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:51 am to Alyosha
Brighton should have had a goal there at the end.
Posted on 1/14/23 at 9:52 am to CobraCommander83
What happened to heavy metal football?
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