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re: United States v. Uruguay | Copa America, Group C | 8pm CT (FOX)
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:46 pm to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:46 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Not enough Americans play soccer. Until that changes, the U.S. will never be able to truly compete.
3 million American kids play soccer. I’m pretty sure that’s more than any other country in the world. Participation isn’t the problem.
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:47 pm to Xenophon
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3 million American kids play soccer
Nearly as much as Uruguay’s total population
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:49 pm to Xenophon
Yes, little kids, many of whom are girls, do play soccer because it’s easy to let them run around and kick a ball.
More serious athletes are not playing soccer for the most part. When they have any athletic ability, they end up playing basketball and football.
More serious athletes are not playing soccer for the most part. When they have any athletic ability, they end up playing basketball and football.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:53 pm to PrimeTime Money
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More serious athletes are not playing soccer for the most part.
Again, the frick does this mean?
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When they have any athletic ability, they end up playing basketball and football.
Yep, a bunch of 5'10 - 6'2 basketball players are running around
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:54 pm to Broski
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Nearly as much as Uruguay’s total population
Uruguay is the most successful national team relative to resources by far. I struggle to think of anyone close, or even a good comparison in any sport.
Jamaican track is the best comparable I can come up with.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:57 pm to PrimeTime Money
There are nearly 1.5m male players between 13-17. That’s more than the total amount of all players in England. That age group of only males is more than nearly every country in the worlds total participation.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:57 pm to Broski
quote:My eyes. Half of the U.S. team is made up of people with foreign connections… be it a player like Robinson who is literally from England, or Balogun who grew up in England to Nigerian parents, or Weah whose dad was a former soccer player from Africa, or Dest who is from the Netherlands, etc.
How are you drawing that conclusion?
Also, define a first tier athlete for me.
A country of 350 million people should be oozing with native-born American talent… yet instead many of the team is composed of semi-foreign players. That tells me the talent pool for native-born Americans is very shallow.
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:58 pm to PrimeTime Money
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My eyes
Posted on 7/1/24 at 11:59 pm to Xenophon
quote:Yes, there are a lot of 3rd and 4th tier athletes playing soccer.
There are nearly 1.5m male players between 13-17. That’s more than the total amount of all players in England. That age group of only males is more than nearly every country in the worlds total participation.
I remember my high school. The caliber of athlete playing on the soccer team and the caliber of athlete playing football and basketball was not the same.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:00 am to PrimeTime Money
Or it tells you we are terrible at developing said talent. If a small pool of guys with US links can make up our squad it’s not because they are more dynamic than our guys it’s because they are developed better
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:01 am to PrimeTime Money
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I remember my high school.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:03 am to Broski
You can’t refute anything I said, because it’s absolutely correct. A country with a healthy native-born talent pool would not have this many semi-foreign players.
It’s like how some obscure U.S. basketball players go play for Nigeria’s basketball team during the Olympics.
It’s like how some obscure U.S. basketball players go play for Nigeria’s basketball team during the Olympics.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:03 am to Broski
Hey Broski, give your schtick a rest for awhile and leave the guy alone.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:03 am to PrimeTime Money
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You can’t refute anything I said, because it’s absolutely correct.
You're 100% trolling.
I respect it.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:03 am to Alyosha
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Hey Broski, give your schtick a rest for awhile and leave the guy alone.
Why so serious?
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:07 am to Broski
You were so mad
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:08 am to Tigerstark
quote:Its because other countries have all of their best athletes playing soccer, so they end up with extra talent left over that finds its way to the U.S. team.
Or it tells you we are terrible at developing said talent. If a small pool of guys with US links can make up our squad it’s not because they are more dynamic than our guys it’s because they are developed better
The best native-born U.S. athletes are not playing soccer. You’re not going to find much soccer in the hood.
Soccer in the U.S. is played largely by wealthy suburban white kids who aren’t exactly going to blow you away with their athletic talents. Then look at where the talent is coming from in these other countries.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:09 am to Alyosha
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You were so mad
Was doing my best you!
Posted on 7/2/24 at 6:36 am to PrimeTime Money
A very antedotal support of this. And to start this off, I realize this is a very minimal example. I am currently a middle school coach. Basketball is my sport, but as it is for a coach we do multiple sports. So I also coach soccer. Now I am the girls coach and it is very different coaching the girls vs the boys. On the girls side, I have no issue finding 11-13 club soccer players and putting together strong teams. I am located in a wealthy suburb area. On the boys side, the coaches struggle to find more than 5 or 6 club kids with decent athleticism. The coaches have had to beg the athletic football players to come out and play. Now most of these boys did play soccer when younger, but gave it up for other sports. Football, baseball and basketball. Athleticallythe coaches have struggled finding 11 to piece together. We had 1 player get the opportunity to spend a week in England to train with a youth team and he struggled. Told, just the incredible difference between there and the play he sees in the club circuit.
The other issue is the emphasis that is placed on soccer by the general public. Our middle school program is not serious and really only for school pride. I coach in a district of 8 teams of all suburban schools. Football season is 10 games. Basketball is 12 plus 2 3 game tournaments, same for volleyball. Cross country and track both have 5 to 6 meets. We played 4 soccer games this past year. Decided by athletic directors and scheduled at end of year when all other sports are done.
In other words it is an after thought by the powers that be.
Obviously this is middle school and high school and club are more serious. But there is lack of care of youth soccer.
The other issue is the emphasis that is placed on soccer by the general public. Our middle school program is not serious and really only for school pride. I coach in a district of 8 teams of all suburban schools. Football season is 10 games. Basketball is 12 plus 2 3 game tournaments, same for volleyball. Cross country and track both have 5 to 6 meets. We played 4 soccer games this past year. Decided by athletic directors and scheduled at end of year when all other sports are done.
In other words it is an after thought by the powers that be.
Obviously this is middle school and high school and club are more serious. But there is lack of care of youth soccer.
Posted on 7/2/24 at 7:12 am to Broski
quote:dude you are being so obtuse
Broski
Take the top 1,000 male athletes aged 17-28 from the following countries:
USA
England
Argentina
Italy
Now, what percentage of those too 1,000 are playing soccer in each country? Are you really arguing our percentage is even close to the same tier as the other countries?
Thats not trolling or knocking on soccer. The same goes for the sport I played in tennis. The USA percentage is much lower there as well compared to euro countries
This post was edited on 7/2/24 at 7:15 am
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