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re: United States of F#ck Yeah v. Sanka's Dentist | Nations League Semis | 6pm CT (P+)
Posted on 3/21/24 at 10:45 pm to Drewbie
Posted on 3/21/24 at 10:45 pm to Drewbie
quote:A piss poor showing at the Copa this summer is our only hope
Is there legitimate talk of him being sacked already or is it just wishful thinking?
But Federation leadership is so inept that even if they did fire him, their search would likely have him as a finalist
Which would be funny if it wasn’t also realistic
This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:08 pm to RemouladeSawce
They were gift wrapped an opportunity to move on
New director/gm/whatever the hell they are
His contract expired
The obvious Reyna blowup
And they still kept him onboard. Rumors are he was the 5th choice or something, but let's face it we're stuck with him.
New director/gm/whatever the hell they are
His contract expired
The obvious Reyna blowup
And they still kept him onboard. Rumors are he was the 5th choice or something, but let's face it we're stuck with him.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 4:43 am to BCLA
Meg swanik states he was the only choice and the search was a sham.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:18 am to lsugorilla
That tying own goal last night might be the worst thing that could have happened for the USMNT because Berhalter might actually have gotten canned if they lose this match
Thing is, we will have a home field World Cup which will only happen this once in our lifetimes. And we have the worst coach. And the best pool of players.
Our wins are in spite of coaching not because of it. It takes a broken play or one person to splash rather than team play.
I go back to OKC Thunder shortly after they moved. They fired Carlisimo and hired Scotty Brooks. Well, they had such a talented group of players (KD, Russ and Harden for starters) that the player talent won games not the coaching. But Brooks never taught his players he only benefited from them winning more and more every year. GM wasn’t going to fire a coach who kept winning more games each year. By the time he was fired it was too late. Players had bad habits and their window was gone as KD checked out.
This is what we have in USMNT now. A HC who is doing nothing tactically but has one of the greatest talent pools in our history who can often win on their own in spite of GB. That lucky win last night did more damage than a loss.
Fans are so confused too. They want to root for the players yet hate the coach. I’ve never seen so much coach hate as I see with GB. So fans want to both win and lose at the same time for the future of team. Never seen anything like this. I have yet to run into one person who is fully behind GB. Not one.
And if he stays and we do bad in WC, it will set US Soccer back decades as fans will leave for good. Last night was a small crowd in a soccer metro. It’s already starting.
Thing is, we will have a home field World Cup which will only happen this once in our lifetimes. And we have the worst coach. And the best pool of players.
Our wins are in spite of coaching not because of it. It takes a broken play or one person to splash rather than team play.
I go back to OKC Thunder shortly after they moved. They fired Carlisimo and hired Scotty Brooks. Well, they had such a talented group of players (KD, Russ and Harden for starters) that the player talent won games not the coaching. But Brooks never taught his players he only benefited from them winning more and more every year. GM wasn’t going to fire a coach who kept winning more games each year. By the time he was fired it was too late. Players had bad habits and their window was gone as KD checked out.
This is what we have in USMNT now. A HC who is doing nothing tactically but has one of the greatest talent pools in our history who can often win on their own in spite of GB. That lucky win last night did more damage than a loss.
Fans are so confused too. They want to root for the players yet hate the coach. I’ve never seen so much coach hate as I see with GB. So fans want to both win and lose at the same time for the future of team. Never seen anything like this. I have yet to run into one person who is fully behind GB. Not one.
And if he stays and we do bad in WC, it will set US Soccer back decades as fans will leave for good. Last night was a small crowd in a soccer metro. It’s already starting.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:19 am to NewbombII
I'm not freaking out as much about last night as yall I guess. The only player to me that was arse was Scally and Dest's suspension is the only reason he was even in the game. We took 18 shots within the box and 11 were off target. I don't even know if this counts the 3 on 2 we had in the first half where Flo played an awful ball to Puli who got closed down before he could get the shot off. Tillman also had a few gaffs in the final third that Gio probably doesn't make
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:55 am to etm512
Giving up the early goal forced Jamaica to be as negative as possible, so it was always going to look like an ugly game from that point on. In that aspect, the result doesn't bother me that much even if we lost.
My biggest issue with last night was that the players were sloppy and tactically we kept trying the same thing over and over even with the personnel changes. The process really bothered me.
My biggest issue with last night was that the players were sloppy and tactically we kept trying the same thing over and over even with the personnel changes. The process really bothered me.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 11:31 am to OU Guy
quote:
That tying own goal last night might be the worst thing that could have happened for the USMNT because Berhalter might actually have gotten canned if they lose this match
Woefully naive
We didn’t do a months long coaching search, decide GGG is the best option, only to fire him after the first competitive game.
Who is the savior of US soccer who will take the job and what it pays? The coaching search showed that no one (except Jesse marsh lol) is interested.
The players love him. Unless we flame out and lose all of our copa games he’s going to be our coach through the WC.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 11:45 am to cwil177
quote:
(except Jesse marsh lol)
An underrated feud in all of this is Gregg vs Jesse.
There's video of Jesse not celebrating at all when the own goal was scored. And then in the post match presser, Gregg fired shots at Jesse, who on his podcast said the only reason Gregg called in Gio this camp was because of their past drama.
It's like two children with downs fighting.
Jesse is coming across as a sleeze in all this though. He said earlier this week that he wouldn't call Gio in this camp, then yesterday questions why Gregg didn't start Gio and says he better start him in the final.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 11:46 am
Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:57 pm to Broski
So Jesse is a sleeze GGG was already a sleeze. They used Jesse to say they actually had a coaching search when they did not. The fix was is when we started hearing a previous one cycle Lalas the mouthpiece of the US Soccer saying GGG really should have another chance and then it happened.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:01 pm to NewbombII
How do you know they didn’t perform a coaching search?
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:03 pm to cwil177
Meg Swanick, Henry and Jesse refused to do all the Psyc and Intel testing. GGG was the only one who jumped all the hoops.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:08 pm to NewbombII
quote:
Henry and Jesse refused to do all the Psyc and Intel testing
If they had other names, that's a coaching search my guy.
Wait... why the frick are we relitigating this again?
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:08 pm to NewbombII
Wasn’t Patrick Vieira interested but didn’t get interviewed?
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:10 pm to NewbombII
quote:
Meg Swanick
She looks like a sub stack journalist. A lot of her tweets give the impression she’s not particularly supportive of the coach to begin with. Is that the only person saying this?
quote:
Henry and Jesse refused to do all the Psyc and Intel testing. GGG was the only one who jumped all the hoops.
I mean, idk what to say. If I’m applying for a job I have to jump through hoops, too. Guess it wasn’t all that appealing to most.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:11 pm to Alyosha
quote:
Wasn’t Patrick Vieira interested but didn’t get interviewed?
He did get interviewed, then laughed the USSF out of the interview.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:14 pm to Broski
What happened? My understanding is that we approached him and he basically said he would rather try to keep coaching club soccer. I didn’t realize we actually interviewed him.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:16 pm to cwil177
quote:
What happened? My understanding is that we approached him and he basically said he would rather try to keep coaching club soccer. I didn’t realize we actually interviewed him.
Maybe saying we interviewed him is too formal, we definitely approached him about the job and he said nah, you don't have your shite together.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:19 pm to Broski
I don't know why this still needs to be said at this point, but this idea that it was always going to be Gregg is just wrong.
He was the safety net... it was a dumb safety net to have considering you risked alienating the frick out of Gio at the time (and I will give credit to all parties involved for being fricking adults for once and being able to put their differences aside for the greater good) but we had no idea at the time if that's how this would play out.
He was the safety net... it was a dumb safety net to have considering you risked alienating the frick out of Gio at the time (and I will give credit to all parties involved for being fricking adults for once and being able to put their differences aside for the greater good) but we had no idea at the time if that's how this would play out.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:37 pm to Broski
They conducted about as much of a search as Joe Alleva did in 2016.
And when you get the info from him or his camp they will also tell you he was very thorough and everything just came back to Orgeron being the best available option.
And when you get the info from him or his camp they will also tell you he was very thorough and everything just came back to Orgeron being the best available option.
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:39 pm to MOT
quote:
They conducted about as much of a search as Joe Alleva did in 2016.
And when you get the info from him or his camp they will also tell you he was very thorough and everything just came back to Orgeron being the best available option.
Nah, Alleva was always going to hire O.
USSF actually had people tell them no before they went back to Gregg.
But I like this road we're going down. Who is the USSF's Ponamsky?
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